Stealth!

[mapes]

It is all personal taste.

Carbon likes jagernaut on his shotty, but I found that i died just as fast.
extra dmage, meant extra damage to ME.. lol

That's the ONLY kit I use it with though. Rand is right that there are better options. When you're using the shotty, your greatest enemy is NOT the guy you are trying to kill, but distance. Anything that can help you beat that is a welcome addition, but mainly because the shotty is already an incredibly lethal tool in CQC. Juggernaut just gives you that little bit extra to keep you going when you square off against someone and start the dance of death

Double tap or Stopping power are much better overall perks, and UAV Jammer is great when there isn't an enemy every 5 feet (ie lower population servers or bigger maps).

I still hold that Overkill is one of the most useless skills though, except for unique cases such as Aqua's Noob Tube setup. Extra guns are almost always available, especially when Cain's is full and rockin. Just pop a few OpFor and look down

+1 on over kill

[-IRC-MIKE]

WOW, it just dawned on me after checking the admin list from another post, HELLO to my fellow Georgian, Apache. Hazlehurst Georgia here. Not too far away. Kudos!

[Apache Warrior]

There are quite a few Georgians here.
Apache

[ViTO]

I will use Last Stand as long as I play this game

So make sure you waste a bit more ammo when killling ViTO
I know you guys hate it and it seems cheap at this level of gaming but

I have more fun with that perk then anything else, at least I'm actually aiming at you.

Don't Hate Me Cause I'm Beautiful

[-IRC-MIKE]

I aim when I nade you too.

[Hammy]

I aim when I nade you too.

HAR HAR HAHAH HAH HAH **snort**

That kills me.

[WalkinTarget]

OK, settled on these:

1) Steady Aim
2) Special Nades

I'm at level 19 now, so at what level can I get Stopping Power ? I didn't find it via a google search, so pardon my ignorance. Ohh, and if Duke is playing, I switch to Martyrdom to counter his Last Stand lameness .. lolol

[tupinambis]

I like Overkill with the shottie. It allows me to use the shottie for up close and personal and another gun, like the P90 for longer distances.
Apache

+1

I personally believe that with all the different weapons, its nice to have an alternative to your slower weapon or distance limited weapon. Before I got my Deagle, I sniped with a p90 as my secondary.

Made life real quaint for a while. Now I am in love with my deagle atm, soooo....

[-IRC-MIKE]

OK, settled on these:

1) Steady Aim
2) Special Nades

I'm at level 19 now, so at what level can I get Stopping Power ? I didn't find it via a google search, so pardon my ignorance. Ohh, and if Duke is playing, I switch to Martyrdom to counter his Last Stand lameness .. lolol

You can open the game and put your pointer over the perks that are not unlocked and it will tell you near the bottom left somewhere...at what level this perk will be unlocked.

[Cold Catalyst]

This game frustrates me like nothing I've played lately .. I love it when I can at least get on a roll, like a 1:1 KD (yea, thats a roll for me)m but .. ughhh, I just need to play it more.

+1 Buddy

[drunken_chef]

i hope this helps(a mod can feel free to make this it's own post)

[The_Needle]

Rules for getting better at COD4 on Cains Lair.

1. Avoid the following people: Drisel, CarbonFire, -IRC-Mike, The_Needle, Aquataine.

2. Kill everyone else.

That should pretty much take care of it

[-IRC-MIKE]

Noooooo, don't avoid me.

"COME TO BUTTHEAD!"

[drunken_chef]

oops, here's the second half

[CarbonFire]

Rules for getting better at COD4 on Cains Lair.

1. Avoid the following people: Drisel, CarbonFire, -IRC-Mike, The_Needle, Aquataine.

2. Kill everyone else.

That should pretty much take care of it

No need to avoid me, I'm harmless

Now come over here.....I have candy! *

*(NOTE: candy may contain lead)