So far HC vs Vanilla

[NateTheBrewer]

rand needs to do an instructional video on how to kill tanks.. err him .

I hope the model has differing damage zones like the previous games... Remember the 'perfect' areas to hit where the bottom of the main gun meets the turret while aiming up, and the front bottoms of the tank treads? They were the most damage areas.

[Rand{CLR}]

I hope the model has differing damage zones like the previous games... Remember the 'perfect' areas to hit where the bottom of the main gun meets the turret while aiming up, and the front bottoms of the tank treads? They were the most damage areas.

There appears to be some of this, but it's not as distinct as in BF2. Part of the problem looks related to the disabling system. I've disabled tanks and they still took 3 hits to finally destroy. I need more observation to see if I can disable different parts--tracks are clear and easy to disable, main guns something else entirely.

The BF3 tanks definitely take more damage to the rear plate from other tank shots than either the BF2 or BC2 counterparts. I've hit the turret join and front treads multiple times to judge damage, but not enough data yet. I'm not even going to try a bounce shot (like in BF2) unless I've got an empty tank to shoot up or am confirming someone else's statement that it works--the early tank perks are auto applied and tanks are too evenly matched at the moment to know just how much leeway one has before esplodin'.

-Rand

[juneau]

Commo Rose is in.

Nice!! Easy to spot people who request ammo/health? This was always a problem in BC2 HC.

[goldenfooler]

Nice!! Easy to spot people who request ammo/health? This was always a problem in BC2 HC.

I think the camo rose sucks. Its not very fast and nobody hears it ... at least I haven't heard anyone shout for a need a lift. (I do wait for people so don't flame)

[Rand{CLR}]

Nice!! Easy to spot people who request ammo/health? This was always a problem in BC2 HC.

Sorta, yeah. There are icons for both ammo and health on the mini-map, and there's a context-sensitive pop-up that says something like "default key (mine is Q): Request (or Offer) ammo/health.

-Rand

[juneau]

Tried it at lunch. Still don't like HC. Spotting doesn't mark the enemy on the mini-map, just calls them out. Team killing Lots of campers. No kill cam. (I like the kill cam since I hate campers and very soon, if not already, people are going to find camping spots where no one will ever know where you are).

I don't like the regen though on vanilla. But I can deal with that.

spotting is marked on my mini map.. though sometimes the spots took 2-3 times for a jet to be spotted.

Glad to hear it's on the minimap. Hated BC2 HC for the fact that you could never really tell who needed health or ammo.

[Quamin]

Sorta, yeah. There are icons for both ammo and health on the mini-map, and there's a context-sensitive pop-up that says something like "default key (mine is Q): Request (or Offer) ammo/health.

-Rand

I've tried that and was slamming the key but no sound came out. I wouldn't have guessed someone would give any ammo...

Boy I can't wait for the first BF3 patch...

[Nauticas]

I need more observation to see if I can disable different parts--tracks are clear and easy to disable, main guns something else entirely.

If you want to hop in an empty server with me this weekend and test this out I'll totally be down for it. Be helpful for both of us to figure this out.

[Rand{CLR}]

If you want to hop in an empty server with me this weekend and test this out I'll totally be down for it. Be helpful for both of us to figure this out.

Good idea, except this is one of the areas Dice screwed up: you literally can't even move in a server until it gets the 8 people needed to start playing.

We were actually talking about this in the TS channel last night, and all feel that it should very much (almost HAS) to be corrected in the first patch. Most of us are lamenting the inability to practice with something new, like flying.

-Rand

[Bon3z]

Good idea, except this is one of the areas Dice screwed up: you literally can't even move in a server until it gets the 8 people needed to start playing.

We were actually talking about this in the TS channel last night, and all feel that it should very much (almost HAS) to be corrected in the first patch. Most of us are lamenting the inability to practice with something new, like flying.

-Rand

Dang! And I was planning on setting up my joystick and flying practice this weekend on empty servers.

[goldenfooler]

isn't there a way for an unranked server to allow play and practice?

[ryanbatc]

Sorta, yeah. There are icons for both ammo and health on the mini-map, and there's a context-sensitive pop-up that says something like "default key (mine is Q): Request (or Offer) ammo/health.

-Rand

Yeah but there's not actually a "need ammo" button... which is something they're forgetting. Also I've noticed a ton of people don't revive. I always revive as a medic if I can. The odd thing is it only works maybe 50% of the time - is there a certain stance I have to take to revive? Crouched? Prone, standing over them???

[Cain]

isn't there a way for an unranked server to allow play and practice?

There may be...

[Cain]

I am going to give vanilla another chance this afternoon in Dallas, so all you vanilla fans hop in...

[baconoclock]

I am going to give vanilla another chance this afternoon in Dallas, so all you vanilla fans hop in...

In there now, just me though.