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    Xeon vs Xeon ???

    Question for any server hardware geeks out there....

    What exactly are the differences between a dual core Xeon and a Quad Core Xeon.

    There must be a reason that none of the high end GSPs run Quad Core Xeons for the high CPU demanding games, they run 2 Dual Core Xeons instead...

    Any specific info and links to explain the functional differences will be appreciated !!

    -- Cain

    #2
    OK, I got my answer in a series of back and forth e-mails with Trinity Gaming.

    Long story short, for big games and lots of players a quad core won't cut it, Dual Core is the only way to go. 64 Player BF2 = single core of Dual Core Xeon.

    Next question. Can you guys help me out ??

    I need a Motherboard for this CPU (link below) and I need SCSI Drives, or I guess these days SAS is the new SCSI?? I prefer having SCSI or SAS built into the Board....

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819117164

    Help me find a motherboard ??

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      #3
      Hmm. SAS? you mean SATA?

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        #4
        I think he does. Sadly i know very little about the new Xeon motherboards so i can't really help there.

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          #5
          Originally posted by juneau View Post
          I think he does. Sadly i know very little about the new Xeon motherboards so i can't really help there.
          +1

          Same here. I've only worked with a handful of the Xeon based systems. Not everyone gets to play with these on a regular basis especially in a small suburban city where price is an issue.

          From what I've seen and heard, the quad core Xeon systems are really overkill and anything beyond a dual core Xeon is basically just to be able to say that you have one. There are not many softwares that utilize the system's capabilities.

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            #6
            Well Cain I found a board that might be useful for you...keep in mind this is a canadian site so I will see if I can get same product from Newegg for you

            http://canadacomputers.com/index.php...570&cid=MB.862

            Edit: Found it on Newegg http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...k=S5000VSASCSI
            Last edited by Zantheus; 17 Mar 2008, 10:10 AM. Reason: Edit: found it on Newegg http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813121042&Tpk=S5000VSASCSI


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              #7
              This is an older article stating four misconseptions about quad core v.s. dual core:

              http://www.siliconvalleywatcher.com/...misconcept.php

              related article:
              http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/articl...GVudGh1c2lhc3Q

              The articles are older, as I stated, so take from it what you will.

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                #8
                http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/24...good-idea-idea

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                  #9
                  well one of the boards they suggest is the 1 I found for him and it is pretty cheap on Newegg I cant believe there is almost a $200 difference from a canadian site and newegg


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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Zantheus View Post
                    well one of the boards they suggest is the 1 I found for him and it is pretty cheap on Newegg I cant believe there is almost a $200 difference from a canadian site and newegg
                    +1 Thats just Crazy.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Cain View Post
                      I need a Motherboard for this CPU (link below) and I need SCSI Drives, or I guess these days SAS is the new SCSI?? I prefer having SCSI or SAS built into the Board....
                      Yeah it looks like SAS is replacing SCSI.

                      Originally posted by -IRC-MIKE View Post
                      Hmm. SAS? you mean SATA?
                      SAS stands for Serial Attached SCSI. It is basically SATA merged with SCSI and uses standard SATA cables. There is an advantage that SAS controllers can control standard SATA drives in addition to SAS drives.
                      [url=http://www.enjin.com/bf3-signature-generator][img]http://sigs.enjin.com/sig-bf3/1fad512dc784c11c.png[/img][/url]

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                        #12
                        Hmmm i hadn't heard of that. Pity these SAS drives can't be run on standard SATA controllers as it would be cool for the home consumer as i think PCs are actually being held back by standard 7200rpm drives and have been for a long time.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by juneau View Post
                          Hmmm i hadn't heard of that. Pity these SAS drives can't be run on standard SATA controllers as it would be cool for the home consumer as i think PCs are actually being held back by standard 7200rpm drives and have been for a long time.
                          +1

                          Same here. It's all news to me.

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                            #14
                            The only reason I know about them is because I'm in the BIOS industry. All of the SCSI cards we see now are SAS. The drives have the look of a SCSI drive (they just look different from a standard drive) but with SATA connectors (data and power). One card I tested recently said it supported 122 SAS or SATA devices!
                            [url=http://www.enjin.com/bf3-signature-generator][img]http://sigs.enjin.com/sig-bf3/1fad512dc784c11c.png[/img][/url]

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Cain View Post
                              Question for any server hardware geeks out there....

                              What exactly are the differences between a dual core Xeon and a Quad Core Xeon.

                              -- Cain

                              Originally posted by Cain View Post
                              OK, I got my answer in a series of back and forth e-mails with Trinity Gaming.

                              Long story short, for big games and lots of players a quad core won't cut it, Dual Core is the only way to go. 64 Player BF2 = single core of Dual Core Xeon.

                              -- Cain
                              I'd be interested in the long story because this doesn't make a whole hell of a lot of sense. You can just as easily assign an instance of BF2 to one core of a quad-core processor just like they are most likely doing with a dual-core.

                              As more engines get programmed to handle multiple cores, in the future you'll want as many as you can get.
                              --Slaughter

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