The "biased" media

[MR_MADHATTER]

http://www.ornery.org/essays/warwatch/2008-10-05-1.html

[Trooper110]

Could be some facts in there, although I see no evidence listed other than one article. I've still looked at everything the candidates have done, said, and put out as their positions and believe that Obama is the best person for the job.

[Duke{CLR}]

That is a good link Madhatter. The coverage of this whole problem is great example of how the mainstream liberals give a free pass to Democrats on most anything. :2thumbs:

[Road_Ratt]

It isn't biased media... so long as it agrees with your beliefs. :roll:

That is a good link Madhatter. The coverage of this whole problem is great example of how the mainstream liberals give a free pass to Democrats on most anything. :2thumbs:

Both sides are blaming the other for this mess, and they are right as both dems. and reps. are responsible for the current economic crisis.

Freddie and Fannie were just a part of the problem, not the whole problem. Deregulation as well as several other factors helped to put us in our current economic crisis.

BTW, Liberal media as well as conservative media give free passes to their party affiliates, bias is not a single party problem (unless your OWN bias gets in the way of seeing it).

[Duke{CLR}]

It isn't biased media... so long as it agrees with your beliefs. :roll:
BTW, Liberal media as well as conservative media give free passes to their party affiliates, bias is not a single party problem (unless your OWN bias gets in the way of seeing it).

The conservative media I read, watch and listen to has had plenty to say about Bush when they don't agree as well as McCain a glaring example of this is with the immigration issue.

If you take the parties out of the whole Fannie/Freddie crap you can isolate the problem. It's liberalism form both sides. These government sponsored companies were examples of government trying to even the playing field. It all sounds good on the surface but when it comes down to it they fail.

[Road_Ratt]

If you take the parties out of the whole Fannie/Freddie crap you can isolate the problem. It's liberalism form both sides.

So a liberal ideology is to blame and conservatives have embraced this ideology as well, that must tickle you pink.

[Duke{CLR}]

So a liberal ideology is to blame and conservatives have embraced this ideology as well, that must tickle you pink.

By definition a conservative could not embrace Liberalism. REPUBLICANS have gone along with it and that's why they are behind in the polls. I have lived in VT for many years so I'm used to voting for someone I have to settle for and because of this I don't harbor any negative felling unlike the "Bush Haters". These people will be in nursing homes 20 years from now and will be mumbling about the evil Bush.

[Road_Ratt]

By definition a conservative could not embrace Liberalism. REPUBLICANS have gone along with it and that's why they are behind in the polls.

So you support a spineless party, how odd. There are many reasons why the republicans are behind in the polls and have been losing seats in congress, kicking back and "going along" with liberals is not one of them.

I have lived in VT for many years so I'm used to voting for someone I have to settle for and because of this I don't harbor any negative felling unlike the "Bush Haters". These people will be in nursing homes 20 years from now and will be mumbling about the evil Bush.

Seriously?!?!? Your hatred of liberals is quite blatant, 20 years from now you'll still be arguing with those "bush haters". On a positive note, at least you'll cancel each other out! :2thumbs:

[Hammy]

It isn't biased media... so long as it agrees with your beliefs. :roll:



Both sides are blaming the other for this mess, and they are right as both dems. and reps. are responsible for the current economic crisis.

Freddie and Fannie were just a part of the problem, not the whole problem. Deregulation as well as several other factors helped to put us in our current economic crisis.

BTW, Liberal media as well as conservative media give free passes to their party affiliates, bias is not a single party problem (unless your OWN bias gets in the way of seeing it).

Great example of tolerant intolerance.:2thumbs:

[Duke{CLR}]

So you support a spineless party, how odd. There are many reasons why the republicans are behind in the polls and have been losing seats in congress, kicking back and "going along" with liberals is not one of them.

The Republicans big spending is a huge reason why they are having trouble. There are many other reasons as well and they depend upon the local circumstances.

Seriously?!?!? Your hatred of liberals is quite blatant, 20 years from now you'll still be arguing with those "bush haters". On a positive note, at least you'll cancel each other out! :2thumbs:

LOL Road Ratt You are projecting. Psychological projection - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection)

I don't hate people who have different beliefs then me. I do have a big problem with criminals like murders, rapists and child molesters so maybe I hate these guys for a bit. I have always been willing to talk to folks around here about my political views when they bring it up. I have also been "banned" from certain events because of their intolerance. Once for just disagreeing with part of a Michel more film.

[Hammy]

Why are people who are willing to leverage indecent, vulgar, and aggressive slogans on T-Shirts, house signs, bumper stickers, and etc any better than some of the things you are saying about Conservative Republicans?The liberals cant stand the hideous things that Republicans do, and yet they subject my children and threaten my sense of decency in public (decency by the way is the expected protection by citizens of a commmunity to be protected from things such as someone throwing a chair through your window because you want to revoke same sex marriage) to terrorist like methodologies to get their point across.

I say that if you cannot have a quiet discussion without name calling you cannot have a point. If you cannot address your problems with whom you disagree with, without resorting to vulgar name calling and profanity, you are worthless in point and manner- because you likely cannot control your point any more than you can control yourself.

Words like "spineless" and etc. seem to be coming out of the mouths of aggressive dramatic liberals everyday. Yet that is okay because the liberals "object"?

Listen, here is the real question, if liberal policy is so freaking acceptable and great, why hasn't that collective group gotten togeather and produced their own political party and overthrown the system? I think the answer is that there is no patience or ideology that is universal, thus the Green Party fails. I mean it supposedly represents the agreeable majority according to so much of what I read in our Community Forums. My suspicion is that the Green Party didn't work out so well for the Liberals so they hi-jacked the Democratic Party and are now riding coat-tails on Obama.

The real conundrum is if these people will be happy to know that Obama does not support liberal government policies, and that his love for special interest groups is actually very limited. If you examine Obama closely he is very conservative on family values and if you omit a few other aspects of his policies and objectives, you may have a real arguement for a man that should be a Republican.

So do I hate Liberals? Hell no. My only stop-gap on opinions and membership is something called citizenship when it comes to politics, policy, and voting. Liberals are important because they allow me to check my own views and values against something that is usually a polar opposite.

[RyeWhiskey]

The hatred that was blatant Road Ratt spewed from your words not Duke's. Duke's words were merely observation not mindless name calling.

The reason democrats are becoming the majority is not because the republicans are as you put 'spineless'. It's the breakdown of morals and ethics on the part of Extreme liberalism bleeding down into mainstream Democrats. As we go along further in time, the moral clock erodes and our current standards of society show the path where it's headed.

Continue with name calling, it is what the party does best. That and spread hatred on opposing views.

[Road_Ratt]

I don't hate people who have different beliefs then me.

You can't even place blame on your own party without blaming liberals (or at least a liberal ideology). Makes it hard not to come to the conclusion that you hate them.

I have also been "banned" from certain events because of their intolerance. Once for just disagreeing with part of a Michel more film.

Everyone should be banned from Michael Moore's films, including Michael Moore. :razz:

Words like "spineless" and etc. seem to be coming out of the mouths of aggressive dramatic liberals everyday.

Duke said that republicans are losing in the polls because they are "going along", I just put his words into a word that fit his description of the situation, spineless (name calling, not). Reps. are hardly the spineless type, so I couldn't believe what he was trying to tell me. Sarcasm doesn't always come across well over the net.

Continue with name calling, it is what the party does best. That and spread hatred on opposing views.

Name calling and hatred spreading is what the wingnuts in BOTH parties do, it's not just a single party problem.


BTW, I don't support either party they are both just too messed up right now to be worthy of my (or anyones) support.

[Duke{CLR}]

When republicans stop being conservative they might as well become democrats. I think liberalism has caused a lot of the problems that we are facing today. I also think that liberal thinking is needed at some point to oppose extreme conservatives. If it weren't for opposing views we would still be having witch trials.

Also just because I disagree strongly with them doesn't mean I harbor hatred with them. I just spent 1/2 a day brewing beer with a neighbor who has many liberal views I don't hate him because of them.

[Road_Ratt]

I think liberalism has caused a lot of the problems that we are facing today.

It's a good thing I can read between the lines or I'd have missed your point. :razz:

One ideology is not the soul problem for this countries woes. I happen to agree with many principles of several ideologies. Ideologies can be a good thing and many aren't a problem on their own, it's when they are taken to their extremes that they become a problem. This is the problem I see in both parties (as well as their followers), the extremes are showing through and ruining both sides. It's why I won't support either party.