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Cliff-Jeff
21st Jun 2006, 11:04 AM
Well, it's that time once again. Pirates vs Ninjas in an all out battle royale for ultimate supremacy!
I debated it yesterday with a ninja kid, and he admitted that i could totally shoot him or turn my peg leg into a howitzer, but he brought up a good point -- Pirates are rather stupid. They go all around searching for treasure and what do they do once they dig it up? Bring it somewhere else and bury it.
I thought it was old time money laundering, bury it, kill everyone who knows about it, then spend it. But whats ur opinion?
http://home.flash.net/~dadis/pirate/Pirate.jpg or http://www.peterbe.com/photos/kungfu/silent-ninjas.jpg
MoN)S(TeR
21st Jun 2006, 11:14 AM
hard choice :(
Cold Catalyst
21st Jun 2006, 11:34 AM
Bahahah Caption Morgan...:)
Pirates FTW (And no Jeff it's not because you sent me that PM telling me to pick pirates)
juneau
21st Jun 2006, 12:49 PM
Pirates FTW :D
Storm_Shadow
21st Jun 2006, 12:51 PM
Both lifestyles were very challenging; not at all what they're cracked up to be nowadays. If a battle were to take place out on the ocean, obviously Pirates would clean house (ever heard of the great ninja seafarers? Didn't think so). However, if it were to be on-shore, I would have to give ninjas the nod. First, the pirates, thrilled to be on dry land for a change, would be pissed drunk. Barring that, even though pirates they had basic early firearms in their arsenal, a ninja wouldn't exactly come charging at them down the street. Given the discipline involved with his training for skills, tactics, and strategies, he would choose the time and place for optimal engagement, and it would be over rather quickly (for the pirate).
But considering you would never find a ninja on the open ocean, the only place of engagement would be on dry land. Ninjas ftw.
Apache Warrior
21st Jun 2006, 12:57 PM
And if they did manage to infiltrate onboard a pirate ship, they would probably set it afire. :D
Apache
Premonition
21st Jun 2006, 01:09 PM
Jesus 4tw :D
Trooper110
21st Jun 2006, 01:13 PM
Plus ninja's wouldn't outright fight. If you do any research, ninja's didn't really fight. They were sneaks and assassins, and tended to be from the peasant class in feudal Japan. They didn't use swords due to the high cost of steel on the Japanese islands and tended towards poisoned daggers or bow and arrows, which weren't a 'honorable' weapon. They took 'hit contracts' and would suicide with poison rather than be captured, which also meant that their fees were fairly high so only the 'honorable' lord classes in feudal Japan tended to use them.
Hence.......they'd poison the pirates ale, then slit all their throats jsut to be sure. Ninja's ftw!!!
Rand{CLR}
21st Jun 2006, 01:25 PM
Ninjas for the win. As to the point they don't fight, well, neither do pirates. Pirates received very little formal training, and just sort of hacked it out (or shot it out), while Ninjas did little else aside from training when they weren't infiltrating something.
Anyone see The Last Samurai? The ninja attack on the village was just flat out badass. Ain't no pirate standing up to that.
-Rand
Tire{CLR}
21st Jun 2006, 03:04 PM
Let's see, they're both criminals, and they're both honor less (assuming that a ninja is a trained and experienced assassin and not a person who practices the marital arts only). I've never actually seen a pirate nor have I seen a ninja. Has anyone ever seen Asterix et Obelix? They can whip both of them hands down. :D
http://193.190.56.244/~eexelman/fr_film/asterix_gerits_smets_bestanden/image001.gif
http://asteriximages.dirtyrubbish.com/pirates/pirate7.jpg
Des Gau-Gau..
Des Gau-Gau..
Des Gaulois!!!
http://asteriximages.dirtyrubbish.com/pirates/pirate9.jpg
Storm_Shadow
21st Jun 2006, 03:06 PM
I'm not a historian, so could be wrong here. It's true that ninja clans did not generally engage in open combat. However, I seem to recall an incident in which there was an attempt on the part of a samurai army to eliminate a ninja clan... and that on the field of battle, the samurai army (one badass force!) was devastated. Not super-human, but a culture that focuses its very existence to killing wouldn't be a very easy mark.
imlittlev
21st Jun 2006, 03:31 PM
Ninjas for the win. As to the point they don't fight, well, neither do pirates. Pirates received very little formal training, and just sort of hacked it out (or shot it out), while Ninjas did little else aside from training when they weren't infiltrating something.
Anyone see The Last Samurai? The ninja attack on the village was just flat out badass. Ain't no pirate standing up to that.
-Rand
isaw that movie. a good movie it was.
omfg karl marx
21st Jun 2006, 03:53 PM
Pirate would win, but not at first. You see, ninjas would decimate the pirates. There is an inverse relationship between pirates and global warming as show in this graph.
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/5620/untitled1copy7yq.png
After the ninjas managed to kill every pirate, the earth would become so warm, the polar icecaps would melt effectively drowning all the ninjas. Therefore, pirates would ultimately win.
Rand{CLR}
21st Jun 2006, 04:12 PM
I like the whole pirates to global warming connection, except that it's flawed. There's probably more pirates alive today than at any other point in history, you just don't hear about them much and they're not the "yo ho ho me hearties" kind. Indonesia, the South Pacific, and the Indian Ocean are infested with pirates.
Now if you substitute the decline in pirates for a decline in ninjas, you may be onto something. Probably fewer ninjas now than at their height.
-Rand
Cliff-Jeff
21st Jun 2006, 04:25 PM
Umm, pirates can hack ninjas computers, empty their bank accounts and steal their identities
How u guna compete with that? All the ninjas would be locked up for tax evasion, SO HA!!! I mean, ARRR
also, ninjas have to yell before they try and kill you "HIIIIYA!" and by then the pirate has already blasted the ninja, i mean, think about it, pirates dont need masks, they have parrot spies, and wenches!!
It's a pirates life for me!
omfg karl marx
21st Jun 2006, 04:25 PM
I like the whole pirates to global warming connection, except that it's flawed. There's probably more pirates alive today than at any other point in history, you just don't hear about them much and they're not the "yo ho ho me hearties" kind. Indonesia, the South Pacific, and the Indian Ocean are infested with pirates.
Now if you substitute the decline in pirates for a decline in ninjas, you may be onto something. Probably fewer ninjas now than at their height.
-Rand
True, but they aren't the fun-loving, cheer-spreading pirates of yesteryears. Real pirates use swords, not grenade launchers.
Storm_Shadow
21st Jun 2006, 05:34 PM
... think about it, pirates dont need masks, they have parrot spies, and wenches!!...
Well, how the heck are ninjas gonna compete with that!!!! They're keeping their eyes peeled on that rascally parrot spy, when a pirate wench comes and bean's him over the head with a 10 pound mold-hardened brick of cheese. The humanity!
True, but they aren't the fun-loving, cheer-spreading pirates of yesteryears. Real pirates use swords, not grenade launchers. Well, No fun-loving, cheer spreading = NO WENCHES!! At which time, pirates being armed with only swords, and barring the global warming business, ninjas ftw. :D
ViTO
21st Jun 2006, 06:07 PM
nuff said.........
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y56/vitopagano/jacksparrow.jpg
Rand{CLR}
21st Jun 2006, 06:26 PM
Jack Sparrow is an aberration. You can't base all of Pirate-hood on one of the flat out all-time best movie characters in history. :P
-Rand
-=]CL[=- Darth Taco
21st Jun 2006, 06:31 PM
1 vote for jesus :shock:
Cliff-Jeff
21st Jun 2006, 07:19 PM
Jack sparrow ftw!!
Good find Vito!! U are teh greateststststst
mapes
21st Jun 2006, 07:32 PM
I pick niether....
I have to go with Mogol Horsemen (Barbarians). Just by the fact that the Mogols caputred and controled more land than anyone else...period.
Cliff-Jeff
21st Jun 2006, 07:40 PM
*cough* Mongols *cough*
but idk, Genghis vs Blackbeard... i think Blackbeard would win just cuz hed be like ARRRR and genghis would be like AHH! and then BB would be like ARRRRR!!! and genghis would be like AHH? then Blackbeard would totally be like ARRR! and genghis would be like ARGGG!!! as he got run thru
but hey, im not a history major, so idk
Rovey Wade
21st Jun 2006, 07:57 PM
i like the banter between "bb" and genghis.
Apache Warrior
21st Jun 2006, 09:35 PM
But, the Mongols never captured Japan. And they tried twice.
Apache
ViTO
21st Jun 2006, 10:01 PM
To end all this madness...
It was called.....Muppet TREASURE ISLAND not NINJA ISLAND :roll:
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y56/vitopagano/1134534463.jpg
Ninja Island ?? :? Who the hell would see THAT !?!?
Cliff-Jeff
21st Jun 2006, 10:29 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
VITO WINS!! i shoulda made u option 4 :2thumbs:
Storm_Shadow
21st Jun 2006, 10:41 PM
But, the Mongols never captured Japan. And they tried twice.
Apache
Lousy sailors, I tell you. Those mongols! :| Sailing straight into gale force winds like that (Kamikaze). NOT a good day for a day at the beach.
bajibbles
21st Jun 2006, 10:46 PM
Depends which pirate you're talking about. If it's Captain Morgan then he wins by default. If you're talking about... say Captain Hook then the ninjas will win. I mean come on. If a fruity green guy from NeverNeverLand can beat Hook, then ninjas will surely be victorious.
ViTO
21st Jun 2006, 11:24 PM
But, the Mongols never captured Japan. And they tried twice.
Apache
Lousy sailors, I tell you. Those mongols! :| Sailing straight into gale force winds like that (Kamikaze). NOT a good day for a day at the beach.
Speaking about lousy sailors....
I am suprised nobody brought up... dem VIKINGS !!
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y56/vitopagano/Vikinga.jpg :wink:
Brinn
22nd Jun 2006, 01:09 AM
OMG the vikings would own everyone hands down, but pirates are so much cooler then ninjas.
Rovey Wade
22nd Jun 2006, 01:14 AM
btw, did anybody play the pirates mod for bf42'??
it was so awesome. they even revoiced all the commands. so you could say, "defend the booty!" instead of "defend the base"
(thats what cliff-jeff's sig is a reference to)
omfg karl marx
22nd Jun 2006, 02:35 AM
But, the Mongols never captured Japan. And they tried twice.
Apache
Lousy sailors, I tell you. Those mongols! :| Sailing straight into gale force winds like that (Kamikaze). NOT a good day for a day at the beach.
Speaking about lousy sailors....
I am suprised nobody brought up... dem VIKINGS !!
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y56/vitopagano/Vikinga.jpg :wink:
Bah, Vikings are just Swedish pirates.
SighKoPath
22nd Jun 2006, 05:41 AM
It's all about the ninjas.
*sees tank*
*appears from nowhere*
*plants 2 C4 packs*
*vanishes*
BOOM
Rand{CLR}
22nd Jun 2006, 07:57 AM
It's all about the ninjas.
*sees tank*
*appears from nowhere*
*plants 2 C4 packs*
*vanishes*
BOOM
Don Pardo: "And now, another episode of Samurai Explosives Expert!"
Cut to John Belushi looking at C4.
Belushi pulls out sword, hacks C4 in half. Looks at detonator, bats it away.
Begins to shape C4 into representation of self. Enter Buck Henry, who asks for his explosives. Belushi shows off his art, and talks about the benefits. Gets angry, slashes table (hitting Buck Henry in the head in the process), points to sign that says "satisfaction guaranteed or we cut off your head."
I think old time ninjas would look at C4, try to eat it first, spit it out, then try to light it on fire. Detonators are a bit beyond them.
-Rand
Trooper110
22nd Jun 2006, 11:23 AM
You guys know James Bond would kill them all and then get the wenches, right?
juneau
22nd Jun 2006, 08:43 PM
Didn't want to do this but...... Chuck Norris FTW :twisted:
Anyhoo i voted for pirates arrrrrrgh :D
Rand{CLR}
22nd Jun 2006, 10:19 PM
Once again, it must be said: Jack Bauer will kick ANYTHING's ass. So you don't want to be whipping out your James Bonds and Chuck Norrises.
-Rand
Apache Warrior
23rd Jun 2006, 05:55 AM
I would say Bruce Lee. He did beat Chuck in the movies. You never saw Chuck beat him in the movies. :D
Apache
Cliff-Jeff
23rd Jun 2006, 10:35 AM
i would say pirates
cuz everyone went totally off topic, i mean, c'mon, i already did the Lohan vs A. Simpson poll, WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT FROM ME??
hmm... chuck norris vs god....
BigTwinky
23rd Jun 2006, 11:53 AM
I would say Bruce Lee. He did beat Chuck in the movies. You never saw Chuck beat him in the movies. :D
Apache
Yeah, but that was the movies, not in real life.
And in real life Kiefer would get his butt kicked by an iguana.
Storm_Shadow
23rd Jun 2006, 12:30 PM
And in real life Kiefer would get his butt kicked by an iguana.
Iguanas ftw. :2thumbs:
My siggy has now been modified to reflect the pirate vs. ninja debate. :wink:
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