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Trooper110
26th Jun 2008, 02:36 PM
Supreme Court says Americans have right to guns (http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D91HS2EO0&show_article=1)

That's right, let's all stock up! :D

(DSP)-Bar
26th Jun 2008, 03:06 PM
Now alls we have to do push through the bibles and we are good to go.

Apache Warrior
26th Jun 2008, 05:45 PM
I already have plenty of guns. Although I could always come up with an excuse to buy another one. :2thumbs:
Apache

BenKenobi
26th Jun 2008, 06:13 PM
OK I'm at a loss...

How can the supreme court override what is clearly stated in the constitution? This makes absolutely no sense to me

mapes
26th Jun 2008, 07:24 PM
Now alls we have to do push through the bibles and we are good to go.


Ummm no thanks...Ohh ok I do need something to level my coffee table....

Trooper110
26th Jun 2008, 08:59 PM
OK I'm at a loss...

How can the supreme court override what is clearly stated in the constitution? This makes absolutely no sense to me

It was a case of whether the 2nd Amendment referred to the State's rights to have armed militias or whether it was a person's own personal rights to own firearms. The Supreme Court backed up a lesser court in saying that it refers to an individual's rights to own arms. Now, they can place limits on what you can buy....such as no rocket launchers or assault rifles, but I'd guess there's balances to what they can do. Washington DC had a rule where you could not own hand guns or have a rifle/shotgun in the house without it being disassembled or a trigger lock on it...the Supreme Court turned that over saying it was against Constitutional rights. Basically what this decision says is that I can own a legally acceptable firearm no matter where I live in the US unless I've done something to revoke that right, say assaulted, threatened, etc. someone, and that local authorities can not place restrictions upon that right.

K PhaNTOM
26th Jun 2008, 09:07 PM
Guys, so what weapons are not allowed? I am new to the U.S. and just wondering if you guys had restrictions. I used to have an AK47 back in my country.

(DSP)-Bar
26th Jun 2008, 09:23 PM
Ummm no thanks...Ohh ok I do need something to level my coffee table....

I was mocking Obama. (Pennsylvania FTW)

{CLR}geneSW
26th Jun 2008, 10:33 PM
Guys, so what weapons are not allowed? I am new to the U.S. and just wondering if you guys had restrictions. I used to have an AK47 back in my country.

This largely depends on the state and your age. In most states (all but 2 or 3 I would guess) a person under the age of 21 cannot own a handgun, but they can own a shutgun or riffle (makes no sense I know) nor can they buy ammo for said handgun. Class 3 firearms are legal in most states, but with restrictions. A good example would be the post-ban M4. The only reason this firearm is legal for civilian's would be because it's 1.5" "izzy" supressor is counted as part of the total barrel length, making it a total of 16".

BE SURE TO CHECK YOUR STATE LAWS FOR SPECIFIC FIREARM LAWS!!!!

DougBob
26th Jun 2008, 10:36 PM
OK I'm at a loss...

How can the supreme court override what is clearly stated in the constitution? This makes absolutely no sense to me

What do you mean?

Todd98
26th Jun 2008, 11:52 PM
I already have plenty of guns. Although I could always come up with an excuse to buy another one. :2thumbs:
Apache

+1 :2thumbs:

Tuck
27th Jun 2008, 10:09 AM
OK I'm at a loss...

How can the supreme court override what is clearly stated in the constitution? This makes absolutely no sense to me

The Second Amendment has never been very clear, no matter what side of the argument we're on. What the SCOTUS did was clarify what it says.

The problem wasn't really so much that the article was confusing, though. It's because many local and state governments were willfully misinterpreting the Constitution in an attempt to ban guns.

xGoblin013x
28th Jun 2008, 05:56 PM
Actually, all the supreme court did was say that only this gun law in DC was unconstitutional... nothing else was changed. Thats why the NRA has taken this to mean "foothold" and is scrambling to fight other gun restrictions.

I personally don't see any need for assault rifles in homes, just in gun ranges. And only shotguns, hunting rifles, and small calibur handguns (maybe limit that to revolvers) are the only things that seem sane to have in a house.
But, I guess if you're afraid of a Gov't conspiracy or you just like to collect weapons for the sake of studying them, I can understand that. I mean, collecting WWII weapons seems perfectly harmless, and ganstas don't often do drive bys with a Thompson smg...

Of course, I am not much of a gun enthusiast... some people like them. I like violent video games and red velvet cake. To each his own, eh? :twisted:

{CLR}geneSW
28th Jun 2008, 06:19 PM
I personally don't see any need for assault rifles in homes, just in gun ranges. And only shotguns, hunting rifles, and small calibur handguns (maybe limit that to revolvers) are the only things that seem sane to have in a house.


1.) I realize i've taken a small bit of your post here and that this isn't the all inclusive picture of it.

Ok, now that that's out of the way, lets start off with your comment about small calibur handguns. The problem with revolvers is that they take a decent amount of time to re-load. If more then 3 people enter your house with the intent to kill you and your family, then you're got a very small chance of taking them all out with nothing but a revolver. a semi-automatic handgun allows you more of a chance to take them out, before they can take you and your family out. Even if you are a good shot, theres still the chance that you will miss the intruders, and with only 3 intruders, that gives you 2 shots per. With a semi-automatic you have a total of either 10 or 13 rounds (plus 1 in the chamber if you keep your gun "at the ready" as I like to call it) depending on the size of the clip you keep. This gives you a few more chances to fire without having to reload, not to mention that if you do have to reload, it's as simple as slipping a new clip in.

Riffles (to include class 3 firearms) aren't exactly ideal for self-protection, and most people who own them (in my experience) prefer to simply modify them (tactical lights, replacing the iron sights with improved sights...ect...ect)

I'm sure I could go on and on, but I think i'll leave it at that. lol.

K PhaNTOM
28th Jun 2008, 06:27 PM
thanks for da help Gene, and thanks for the "check your local stuff" stuff, I hate to be the only man in texas without a gun... :gun: :twisted:

xGoblin013x
29th Jun 2008, 09:17 AM
Hmmmm... good point. And considering the organized nature of crimes nowadays, this might not be so far fetched.

And I guess the organized ones will always aim to get automatics from Mexico. A snubnose and a Mac 10 isnt really a fair fight...

Thrashdragon
1st Jul 2008, 04:26 PM
Hmmmm... good point. And considering the organized nature of crimes nowadays, this might not be so far fetched.

And I guess the organized ones will always aim to get automatics from Mexico. A snubnose and a Mac 10 isnt really a fair fight...

Not fair at all...the snubnose would win every time. A Mac-10 can't hit the broad side of a barn from inside the barn. The SAS refer to it as the "phone booth gun", because unless you and your target were both standing inside the same phone booth, you'd probably miss. That's why they always hit the wrong person in drive-bys (well, that and their hysterical love of holding guns sideways to fire them).

It's pretty easy to get a fully automatic AK47 though. You can buy them for under ten US dollars in plenty of third world countries, and our borders aren't exactly known for their security. Luckily it's a big, hard to conceal rifle and your average thug wouldn't know how to handle it.

I'm not afraid of government conspiracies, I'm afraid of what the government is doing right out in the open.

xGoblin013x
1st Jul 2008, 04:30 PM
oohhhh so thats why the bad guys always miss when they're firing them...
I thought it just a cheap way to keep action up and the character alive.

Rand{CLR}
1st Jul 2008, 04:33 PM
Hey now. There is NOTHING wrong with holding a handgun or assault pistol sideways. That's obviously the way the cool people do it. Don't you want to be cool too?

-Rand

(DSP)-Bar
1st Jul 2008, 04:40 PM
Hey now. There is NOTHING wrong with holding a handgun or assault pistol sideways. That's obviously the way the cool people do it. Don't you want to be cool too?

-Rand

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juneau
1st Jul 2008, 05:14 PM
only On Sundays

Lol !! :d