It's about time

[juneau]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4493094.stm

One of my oldest friends is so happy right now :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Edit: I've decided to add a poll on the top :)
Edit2: I will not be casting a vote.

[dirtyoldgoat]

Good for the UK!

While I don't necessarily agree with the practice, I still think they should be given the same rights, if it makes them happy, then let them be!

[fylth]

I figure let the Funkies get married. but the thing is.. if everyone is a Funkie, us Humans will die off. But good job for the UK.. 24 hr Bars, and gay marriage :arrow:

[Midnight Rider]

i say if you have to change the definition of a word to make sense out of it, you're just cheating.

gays should be limited to a certain percentile of the population.

they are pretty funny though.

[peach]

great sig goat! :D

[juneau]

I just read through that article again as i only quickly scanned through it last time and noticed this...

But a spokesman for the one of the UK's major Christian groups told the BBC they believed same-sex couples should not get the same rights as married couples.

"If you transport something unique, like marriage, into a different context, there's always a cost. And the cost here is in terms of reduction of marriage and the undermining of it," Don Horrocks of the Evangelical Alliance said.

I don't want to start a flamming session but this is why i can't stand religion and am 100% athiest. The christian church needs to wake up and get its head out of the dark ages. Love is love no matter what sex or type of relationship you are in.

Edit: damn that quote has actually made me quite angry.... i better go play ons :)

[[bondage]]

lol, hundreds of couples. how many people live in britain? all this for a few hundred people.

[juneau]

]lol, hundreds of couples. how many people live in britain? all this for a few hundred people.

So the minority should be overlooked?

Meg Munn, minister for equality, said the government expected 4,500 couples to get "partnered" in the first year.

[Quamin]

Minority has nothing to do with it. If that was the case then take the violent gangs out there who are a minority of the population and give them the right to continue what they do without restriction. You had better expect they'd grow out of control and effect society in a very bad way. Also don't expect that since you don't see effects of allowing these things to happen in the short term that they won't hurt anything. Might these decisions be leading to someting worse from the past that we haven't learned from? Just look at this site and read close under Moral Decay:

http://www.leaderu.com/common/nationsdie.html

Morals are sure important, and what are morals? Where do they come from/what are they based on? If we know what they are based on then why not follow that that has made this country and made it prosperous?

(Flame on!)

[juneau]

I don't want to flame anyone, that wasn't the point of this thread. But i must admit i haven't seen one 100% positive remark made which to me is kinda scary considering this is a "modern world" What is it exactly people have against same sex relationship and marriages? It's not doing anybody any harm.

Edit: So giving the gay society the same pleasure of straight people would be as bad as letting violent gangs do what they please? I seriously doubt that it would have anywhere near the same effect :?

[peach]

mine was 100% positive!! :D

[juneau]

mine was 100% positive!! :D

Hehe yes it was peach :D

[johnnie]

omg, the poll results look like "the middle finger",lmao :shock:

[ViTO]

omg, the poll results look like "the middle finger",lmao :shock:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y56/vitopagano/signs013.gif

This is a touchy subject that has very deep rooted history. Its going to take a few generations before complete acceptance is viable. It has driven a fairly dividing line here in Canada in the political scene. Its going to be interesting to see what happens.

Personally, I don't really care but its not just love that is at stake here. But hey, I have been with the same woman for 22 years and have a 16 year old and we are still not married in the "traditional" sense. I don't see how a piece of paper changes anything.

[juneau]

This is a touchy subject that has very deep rooted history. Its going to take a few generations before complete acceptance is viable. It has driven a fairly dividing line here in Canada in the political scene. Its going to be interesting to see what happens.

Personally, I don't really care but its not just love that is at stake here. But hey, I have been with the same woman for 22 years and have a 16 year old and we are still not married in the "traditional" sense. I don't see how a piece of paper changes anything.

I'm like you then slug. Looks like it does seem that we here over in the UK people are not as divided as some parts of the world like you say Slug. Sorry if i've caused offence to anybody with this thread it was supposed to be a happy post.

[Premonition]

I don't see how a piece of paper changes anything.

taxes

[Rand{CLR}]

I don't see how a piece of paper changes anything.

taxes

Benefits, for those places still too backwards to recognize civil union/"common law" marriages/domestic partners sort of arrangements

-Rand

I don't see how a piece of paper changes anything.

taxes

Benefits, for those places still too backwards to recognize civil union/"common law" marriages/domestic partners sort of arrangements

-Rand

In Canada, there no real differences (that I am aware of) in the tax department betwen common-law and legally married so no benefit there.

I am considering it because it makes it easier for my kid should anything happen to me and the wife, however, a proper will takes care of that as well.

[CrazyFinn]

I think you should be able to marry who ever you love...be it a guy/girl/goat/...

[dirtyoldgoat]

PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 10:20 am Post subject:
I think you should be able to marry who ever you love...be it a guy/girl/goat/...

Gee, thanks!

[RuThLeSsKiLLa]

PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 10:20 am Post subject:
I think you should be able to marry who ever you love...be it a guy/girl/goat/...

Gee, thanks!

lol thaz was funny tha make me laugh.... about marriage of same sex, im not down with it but if tha what makes them happy. i guess is not harmful. but dont show ur expression of love newhere u are, cuz i dont want to see tha

[MoleRat]

I'm going to personally go with a yes... even though i don't like the idea of marriage and will probably never do it (at least not in a church)...

but hey, if you're gay and believe in marriage, go for it.

[Cliff-Jeff]

i hit up a yes also. anyway you look at it, its discrimination against people. the sanctity of marriage got killed when 50% of american marriages end in divorce. If a gay couple can love each other and stay together, awesome! and if they can adopt kids (which would be cool because our adoption system is getting full) and raise those kids in a nurturing, loving environment, who could say no to that?

I feel like this is reminiscent of Interracial Marriage and how people freaked out about it, but in time we'll get used to it and itll be made "legal". And just fyi, dont argue that this will lead to humans marrying dogs....thats stupid. :arrow:

[dirtyoldgoat]

". And just fyi, dont argue that this will lead to humans marrying dogs....thats stupid.

Well, if a guy can go out to the pasture and marry his horse (which has happened) than why should we be able to prevent something like this?

It's tragic that it hasn't happened sooner...

[Cliff-Jeff]

dog marriage? i thought the hole Consent thing had something to do with it, id be happy if you got me an article about a man marrying a horse, cuz it sounds interesting to read

[DARK4SE]

Good for the UK!

While I don't necessarily agree with the practice, I still think they should be given the same rights, if it makes them happy, then let them be!

I guess I am just "old fashion" I am not a "bible thumper", if you will, but I believe "marriage" should be for a man and a women. I am not against gay couples. I have several friends here in the valley who are gay men. As far as the same rights, gay couples already have the same rights, at least here in the states they do.

Gay couples are held to "ALL" the same laws in a relationship that straight couples are held to. They just do not have a "marriage license"

[alpha]

one proposal i heard was to make all "marrages" into civil unions, then if you wanted to get married, you could also do that. civil union would be allowed to gay and strait people and it would entail all the legal things, everything the government was concerned with, while marrage would be the religous aspect of it. that way you could get married and not have the legal aspects, a civil union and not have the religous aspects, or both. interesting idea.

[Coach]

Well I guess I'm a little liberal compared to some people but I'm all for it. A gay couple lived next to my house as I grew up and we were brought up to accept it as it was. My policy is I don't really care. Being homosexual is still means being a minority so I wouldn't ever think to say "We're going to die off!" or anything like that, that's just not true.

As for having the same rights, I still don't think that's true. By law they do but if a gay couple were to do many things a straight couple were to do they wouldn't really be accepted. I personally have never seen two guys making out in the middle of public (i can't go as far as two girls :wink:) but if they did I can only see so many people causing a ruckus about it corrupting children or something. It's just a way of life and you can't stop a person from loving another. If a guy loves a guy in that way then all the more power to them and same goes for women.

[juneau]

Well I guess I'm a little liberal compared to some people but I'm all for it. A gay couple lived next to my house as I grew up and we were brought up to accept it as it was. My policy is I don't really care. Being homosexual is still means being a minority so I wouldn't ever think to say "We're going to die off!" or anything like that, that's just not true.

As for having the same rights, I still don't think that's true. By law they do but if a gay couple were to do many things a straight couple were to do they wouldn't really be accepted. I personally have never seen two guys making out in the middle of public (i can't go as far as two girls :wink:) but if they did I can only see so many people causing a ruckus about it corrupting children or something. It's just a way of life and you can't stop a person from loving another. If a guy loves a guy in that way then all the more power to them and same goes for women.

That is so well put :arrow: :arrow:

[z]

well all i know is that i dont want to one day see my boy walking down with another guy in hand to get married. ive heard for a long time this love is love crap but i dont believe homosexuality is right. i dont think its natural. and i say i wouldnt be a part of it even if it was my kid.

*suits up* aaand


flame away :evilfire:

[juneau]

well all i know is that i dont want to one day see my boy walking down with another guy in hand to get married. ive heard for a long time this love is love crap but i dont believe homosexuality is right. i dont think its natural. and i say i wouldnt be a part of it even if it was my kid.

*suits up* aaand


flame away :evilfire:

No need to flame. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion :)

Chances are better than average that if it was your kid yout opinion would soften some Z.

[johnnie]

i dont care either way , i guess :|

[juneau]

Just wanted to add that i really didn't think that this thread was going to get so much attention :)

[z]

yeah slug chances might be better than average but im pretty certain about how i feel about the whole thing. and yea juneau everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but a lot of times people forget that and get too wrapped up in thinking their own belief is whats actually correct, so i just like to make sure im ready for any and all flaming before posting my opinion on anything lol.

really i dont see why some topics are continuously debated over, when obviously there is no correct answer, just opinion. its like people think we will discover some secret answer one day after years of argument lol. just a waste of energy if you ask me. oh well. i dont mean to say that is whats happening with this thread. its just that homosexuality is one of those issues i think. abortion would probably be another. i try not to get too deep into arguments like that. back to studying, finals week. :P gg gents.

[Coach]

This is in constant debate because the conservatives won't let it die and then if they win, the liberals won't. It'll always be debatible because niether side will like it.

Love it or hate the debate it is important. In our society we are always told that the minority should have as much say as the majority. If this were swept under the rug it would be grounds to mutinize a constitution, to put it extravagently of course.

I think it's more the way you were brought up if anything. Not stereotyping anything but the way you were brought up undoubtibly will come down to how you were raised with values. Whether your parents agree or not, it's really how you were developed as a person to make decisions and come to the answers you have. I love my opa but he's is probably the most racist sob on the planet. I don't share the same values or decisions but I value his insight and fight his ass about stuff he remarks.