Our Next President

[Todd98]

I just wanted too say who ever we get for a president I only hope he or she will be a good one! For the people by the people!

[Zantheus]

Even being a Canadian I spend 5-8hrs a dayh watching CNN and following the race closely. I honestly believe non of the candidates would do any good for the ppl of America other than Clinton...she is the most sincere and with the guidance of her husband whom was one of the best Presidents your country has seen, as well as her own experience she will suceed. I believe the White House needs a woman in there anyway. She would reform areas that no man has attempted to go

[thedeadlyassassin]

Obama is all I care about. I don't want to offend anyone, but was it South Carolina that had a bunch of people say they voted for her because she cried?

Regardless what you think, you should NOT be able to vote unless you are voting in a politcal reasoning instead of "oh it's the first female and she cried".


If Obama wins, I'll be happy. If Hillary wins, I don't think I'll be living in the US for 4 years.

[Todd98]

This is what makes our country great no matter what your race or creed or religon, I hope we will vote for who we think will do a great job not just for our country but will do a great job for our allies and neighbor's

[LIMEY]

Even being a Canadian I spend 5-8hrs a dayh watching CNN and following the race closely. I honestly believe non of the candidates would do any good for the ppl of America other than Clinton...she is the most sincere and with the guidance of her husband whom was one of the best Presidents your country has seen, as well as her own experience she will suceed. I believe the White House needs a woman in there anyway. She would reform areas that no man has attempted to go

Nice satirical post. :twisted:

[(DSP)-Bar]

Even being a Canadian I spend 5-8hrs a dayh watching CNN and following the race closely. I honestly believe non of the candidates would do any good for the ppl of America other than Clinton...she is the most sincere and with the guidance of her husband whom was one of the best Presidents your country has seen, as well as her own experience she will suceed. I believe the White House needs a woman in there anyway. She would reform areas that no man has attempted to go

Nice satirical post. :twisted:


Want a Woman... Condoleezza Rice - End of story.


Please don't ruin another 8 years of my life.... :D


Giuliani (Don't think he is gonna make it.... :( )Or McCain.

[TheSilentAssassin]

Sorry boys, but McCain just won Florida, and Guliani is expected to drop out and endorse McCain. Cheers to the next Commander in Chief!! :D

[minfootball]

well the world is supposed to end 12/21/2012
and elections are here in 2008
and the bible said there would be the coming of the antichrist
so unfortunatly for all of us Obama fans, Hilary is going to win

So lets save the world a few more years

OBAMA FOR PREZ :2thumbs:

here are my reasons why
1. Hilary is power hungry
2. Most women in power have a certain something about them that lets you know they mean good, Hilary doesnt. and thats a fact.
3. Obama has a muslim past (bonus points in Middle East)
4. From my state
5. His stance seems right on more things then other canidates in my opinion
6. He is not the anti-christ

I could go on but its 12:30

[Cain]

Obama is all I care about. I don't want to offend anyone, but was it South Carolina that had a bunch of people say they voted for her because she cried?

Regardless what you think, you should NOT be able to vote unless you are voting in a politcal reasoning instead of "oh it's the first female and she cried".


If Obama wins, I'll be happy. If Hillary wins, I don't think I'll be living in the US for 4 years.

New Hampshire voted for Hillary.. SC voted for Obama and kicked the crap out of Billary....

[tupinambis]

well the world is supposed to end 12/21/2012
and elections are here in 2008
and the bible said there would be the coming of the antichrist
so unfortunatly for all of us Obama fans, Hilary is going to win

So lets save the world a few more years

OBAMA FOR PREZ :2thumbs:

here are my reasons why
1. Hilary is power hungry
2. Most women in power have a certain something about them that lets you know they mean good, Hilary doesnt. and thats a fact.
3. Obama has a muslim past (bonus points in Middle East)
4. From my state
5. His stance seems right on more things then other canidates in my opinion
6. He is not the anti-christ

I could go on but its 12:30

Being non-religiously inclined and definately not one to usually meddle in politics, I have to say something here. This just really struck me as odd...

1. Ok maybe.. But what president isnt. They wouldnt have run if they werent. A woman needs to be a little more agressive in a situation like this. Not that I condone any of the presidents, I just dont see your point in this statement.

2. How is that a fact and please back that up... I dont see it.

3. Now this is really the one that hit me hard. How can having a muslim past be a good thing? Do we not remember 9-11?? Was this a good thing then?

4. Yes, thats a real bonus there.

5. Very good. I like that reasoning. Really, I do.

6. Ok.... As I stated, not religiously inclined, but... Wasnt it said that the anti-christ would have a huge following and be born of power and wasnt it referred to as a male? How could you know Obama isnt the antichrist?

Having said all of these things and knowing full well that the topic is going to light on fire now... Please remember that this isnt an arguement. Just making my 2cents known as well.
:wink:

[Thrashdragon]

Since even the most fervent anti-Republicans are terrified of putting Hillary in power, it should be interesting to see how this election turns out should she win the Democratic nomination.

:pop:

Personally, I don't think any of the frontrunners are worth a damn. I used to like McCain, but ever since he decided to run he's become a lot less straightforward and more of a toe-the-party-line kinda guy. Boo.

[BigTwinky]

1. Hilary is power hungry
2. Most women in power have a certain something about them that lets you know they mean good, Hilary doesnt. and thats a fact.
3. Obama has a muslim past (bonus points in Middle East)
4. From my state
5. His stance seems right on more things then other canidates in my opinion
6. He is not the anti-christ

I could go on but its 12:30

1. Which politician is NOT power hungry? Thats like saying that most people are working because they love working. I may like what I do, but i work to pay my bills. Its a human thing. You are telling me that Obama, McCain and all the others are not power hungry?

2. Wow...just wow. A certain something that tells you they mean good? What the hell is that supposed to mean? And then to follow that up stating that Hillary doesn't, and its a fact? Then as already stated, please post up your facts.

3. Not sure how Obama having a "muslim past" will help in the Middle East. Do you mean soldiers will vote for him because they are there? I don't get the statement and how it reflects Obama's political talents

4. Yeah, so he is the best man for the job because he is from your state. Way to look at things objectively :roll: Where someone is from should not have a bearing on their ability to lead. This is the person deciding the fate of your nation. And in your top 6 reasons to vote, one is because he is from where you are from.

5. Finally, a point that makes some sense.

6. Yeah, ok.


I don't like Clinton and I don't feel she would be the best fit in power at this point. Not because she is a woman (I'd love to see a female president) but because of her and what she is about. And this is from a canadian angle.

I prefer Obama over Clinton myself, but if you are going to try and discredit someone, at least make some valid points. Your arguments are mostly along the lines of the political smut and mud slinging I see on the american TV stations, which is just a horrible way to do politics.

[BigTwinky]

Personally, I don't think any of the frontrunners are worth a damn. I used to like McCain, but ever since he decided to run he's become a lot less straightforward and more of a toe-the-party-line kinda guy. Boo.

I'm not a huge politics fan, but not since the last Bill Clinton race were there any candidates that were interesting enough to pay attention to. Bush vs Gore, Bush vs Kerry... they are just the best of the losers, ya know?

[Thrashdragon]

[quote=Thrashdragon]
Bush vs Gore, Bush vs Kerry... they are just the best of the losers, ya know?

Preachin' to the choir, brother.

[(DSP)-Bar]

Bush = better then Gore by a long shot and Kerry is a moron.... If Kerry had spent less time whining about the 'Nam war then we might actually have won it.

[BigTwinky]

Bush = better then Gore by a long shot and Kerry is a moron.... If Kerry had spent less time whining about the 'Nam war then we might actually have won it.

I think judging by where the country is now, I'm not sure Bush was better by a long shot. Don't know what Gore would of done, you can only assume. But we do know what Bush has done.

Whether you think the country is in a better state of affairs now than it was prior to him being elected is your choice.

But yeah, I didn't see Kerry as a President. He has too much of that confused pidgeon look.

[Rand{CLR}]

None of this means anything until next Tuesday. Florida doesn't count this year for the Democrats because they lost their delegates by moving their date up, and all the other states so far voting in the Democratic primaries are piddly little states with relatively no power in the process because they don't have enough people to increase the delegate count to a statistically significant amount (no offense to your fine state, Cain. :D ). But Tuesday, a number of major states have their primaries, including California.

We do know it's not going to be Edwards. Or Giuliani.

Re: Kerry and Vietnam. Uh, wrong. The single biggest reason why we didn't win was political. The political leadership of the country, for various reasons, refused to continue airstrikes and sea-based attacks on most of North Vietnam through most of the war. You can't drop bombs on a jungle road used to carry supplies to the front while you leave the ports untouched. Just doesn't really work all that well.

No single protester had a significant impact. And if you look at it a different way, people like John Lennon were also against the war. He would have had much more impact to the American consciousness than a former solder nobody had ever heard of (Kerry), and that still didn't matter. It took a critical mass of opposition and protesters to make a difference. It also took time. Kerry didn't begin speaking out until near the end of major U.S. committment after years of fighting.

-Rand

P.S. Interesting to see if Edwards gives his support to Hillary or Obama today.

[baconoclock]

I think its going to be an interesting race to say the least.

As the siggy says i support Obama. But that being said if he doesnt get the party nomination and Billary does i wont be voting for a democrat.

I'm not sure if i could bring myself to vote for McCain. I used to like em but to me it seems like hes been changing just to fit the party mold a bit better.

[BigTwinky]

I only know about McCain because I see him in the Daily Show with Jon Stewart. The only two candidates that really make the news here in Canada are Clinton and Obama.

[Thrashdragon]

I only know about McCain because I see him in the Daily Show with Jon Stewart.

That's actually why I used to like him, and why I don't anymore. He used to answer any question Stewart would put to him in a straightforward and honest manner, but once he decided to run he became evasive in his answers.

[minfootball]

ok some people took me way to seriously :D
all of those were opinions and not fact
its just a running joke around here about hillary being the antichrist

ok let me rephrase some of these
1. Hillary is power hungry but it seems like for the wrong reasons, not to help the country but hinder it (this is not mud slinging, i came to this conclusion after watching her)
2. Again this is just opinion i added "and thats a fact" at the end just for humor. From MY OPINION, i see other women in charge or high up the totempole in other countries but they have a certain atmosphere about them. They seem to have an actual care for the people, instead of being power hungry. (also came to this conclusion after watching/hearing her)
3. I am a Lutheran (Christian) and have been my whole life. Both my parents played high parts in the church and i attend and believe as much as possible. But i still support a leader with a muslim background. Islam is the second most popular religion on this planet and for good reason. Yes worship practices and historical beliefs may differ greatly from christianity, but the morals of islam are very very good. Its only a small portion of that religion that is messed up, and christians arent unlike that either. Westboro Baptist is an example, or the crusades... Having a president with a muslim background may win us some simpathy points from the middle eastern countries, and also allow us to better understand and react to the differences in culture that arise from interactions in the middle east.
4. Land of Lincoln, Home of Obama :D
5. everyone already agrees with this point
6. Still a running joke :D (there are many euphanisms (i think thats the term) in the bible, the antichrist could be anyone.

again these are all my opinions
i will take anyone elses rebutals with humor
everyone is entitled to there own opinion
i find my own funny

:D

[Premonition]

i want anyone but bush :D but im not a fan of any of the current people either. Hillary scares me :shock:

[LIMEY]

ANYONE BUT HILLARY 08

[Todd98]

We will just have too sit back and see what happens as we have seen two drop out of the race.

[BigTwinky]

thanks for clearing up your points minfootball :)

[Zantheus]

Well now Edwards an Gulliani r out...shall be interesting to see who Edwards endorses over the next lil bit

[-IRC-MIKE]

IF... and I hope not for my own reasons... but IF Hillary Clinton wins the election and becomes our next president (god forbid), then there WILL NEVER be another male president .....probably won't even be any male candidates.

Call me old fashioned, but I don't want to see a change that dramatic. Even though George Bush and Jr. were father and son presidents, I don't think it should even be possible for your SPOUSE to be a candidate after you've already been president. She has already BEEN 'the first lady'! If that were to be the case, then hell why not change it where anyone who has ever been president for TWO Terms can run AGAIN after the two terms are over. There is too much political controversy.. or what I call 'conflict of interests'. What will Bill Clinton be called? The first lady? The first man? He's already been the first a lot of things but 'the first spouse' is not something I'm ready to see. It just doesn't seem right to me.

Hillary ... put the cigar down and back away slowly!

[paceman]

Well now Edwards an Gulliani r out...shall be interesting to see who Edwards endorses over the next lil bit
I don't think Edwards will endorse anyone. I think he will go to the convention with his delegates and want to be part of the show.

[paceman]

IF... and I hope not for my own reasons... but IF Hillary Clinton wins the election and becomes our next president (god forbid), then there WILL NEVER be another male president .....probably won't even be any male candidates.

Call me old fashioned, but I don't want to see a change that dramatic. Even though George Bush and Jr. were father and son presidents, I don't think it should even be possible for your SPOUSE to be a candidate after you've already been president. She has already BEEN 'the first lady'! If that were to be the case, then hell why not change it where anyone who has ever been president for TWO Terms can run AGAIN after the two terms are over. There is too much political controversy.. or what I call 'conflict of interests'. What will Bill Clinton be called? The first lady? The first man? He's already been the first a lot of things but 'the first spouse' is not something I'm ready to see. It just doesn't seem right to me.

Hillary ... put the cigar down and back away slowly!
I don't agree with your point, at all. WHY? Why would there not be another male run if Hillary wins?

I can't agree with your 2nd point either. I DO agree that I don't believe at all that Hillary has 35 years of expience in anything, but putting up with Bill. That's like the joke going around that Brett Farve's wife is qualified to be the Packers' quarterback next year.

BUT - had Bob Dole won in '96, I would have voted for Elizabeth Dole had she run after him. Actually I think she would have been the better candidate.

Bill will probably be know as "First in line".

[LIMEY]

If Hillary wins (IF)She will already have the presidential dog.....Bill

[paceman]

It wouldn't surprise me in the least if Hillary made Bill the Vice President so that they wouldn't have to come up with some weird title for him. I don't believe that there is any law against being a VP after having served 2 terms as Prez.

[BigTwinky]

IF... and I hope not for my own reasons... but IF Hillary Clinton wins the election and becomes our next president (god forbid), then there WILL NEVER be another male president .....probably won't even be any male candidates.

Call me old fashioned, but I don't want to see a change that dramatic. Even though George Bush and Jr. were father and son presidents, I don't think it should even be possible for your SPOUSE to be a candidate after you've already been president. She has already BEEN 'the first lady'! If that were to be the case, then hell why not change it where anyone who has ever been president for TWO Terms can run AGAIN after the two terms are over. There is too much political controversy.. or what I call 'conflict of interests'. What will Bill Clinton be called? The first lady? The first man? He's already been the first a lot of things but 'the first spouse' is not something I'm ready to see. It just doesn't seem right to me.

Hillary ... put the cigar down and back away slowly!

First off, why would there never be another male president? Once the ?women being elected? flood gates open, you are stuck in a women always leading deluge? What is the reasoning behind this? Once the women folk start voting for other women then they will never stop doing so?

As for the spouse not being elected, I would agree IF the spouse had power, which they don?t (I?m talking in general, not Hillary wearing the pants in their relationship). Just because you are married doesn?t mean you share ideals on each and every topic and that things will be done the exact same way.

What Bill Clinton would be called is not a reason to disagree with a spouse being elected. Its nothing important, it?s a title that means nothing. Who cares what he is called

Or do you mean that the ex-president spouse will have an influence on the newly elected spouse, and could thus be running for more than 2 terms? So conflict of interest, maybe, but I still don?t think. I think the conflict is even greater when you have a father and son over spouses.

Then were do you draw the line? Brothers and sisters of president?s can?t run. Neither can anyone in their family or close acquaintances. People who have worked with them in the past, and maybe even those who will work with them in the future shouldn?t run because this is a conflict.

It?s a big grey zone. But it?s a grey zone where I don?t think that saying a spouse can?t run is the right way to go. The right person, regardless of gender, colour or religion, should be the one to lead the country.

Your whole ?but 'the first spouse' is not something I'm ready to see. It just doesn't seem right to me.? just sounds very sexist to me. I?m probably off though.

"put the cigar down and back away slowly"
Ah, so the women is not aloud to join the old fashion male cigar smoking club, she needs to stay on the outside.

Interesting indeed

[paceman]

Ladies and Gentlemen,

IF you want to be taken seriously at all in debates, you can't just throw out some random wild thought without putting up a little thought as to WHY! You may think it's true that the Easter Bunny will the new Agricultural Commissioner if/when Hillary is elected, but give at least 1 shred of a reason why you believe it to be true!



We now return you to your regularly scheduled Forum posts.

[Thrashdragon]

You may think it's true that the Easter Bunny will the new Agricultural Commissioner if/when Hillary is elected, but give at least 1 shred of a reason why you believe it to be true!

The Easter Bunny regularly polls highly amongst the preteen demographic, and it would be ignorant to think that millions of children shrieking Mr. Bunny's name has no effect on their voting parents.

The Easter Bunny is also of indeterminate gender, and for this reason polls highly with gay/lesbian/transgender organizations.

It's past time this nation had an Agricultural Commissioner with a strong background in brightly colored eggs and neon plastic grass.

He also sneaks into your house once a year, and it would be smart to stay on his good side.

Do the right thing.

Easter Bunny. 2008. Do it.

[-IRC-MIKE]

Stop being so anal! Why do you have to pick apart everything someone says. The first paragraph was a joking statement, but quite possibly true. I say this because my wife just will not shut the hell up about it and if 1 in 5 women share the same political views as my wife then ... like I said.. it will possibly happen.

You can argue this until you're blue in the face but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that there are going to be a LOT of women portraying the "I told you so" attitude when it comes to women "can do everything a man can do, and better", and there are going to be a LOT of men who are going to argue back. There will be controversial debates about presidential decisions that may sway in the favor of women and men will take this personally. The end result will be a bunch of pissed off women's libbers and soccer moms who will gang up and vote for "women only candidates" and whether you like it or not....according to the 2000 census there is a substantial amount more women in the U.S. than there are men.

NOW, you can take this post however you like ... but this is my opinion... some of it may wind up being absolutely 100% true.. or it may be 100% totally incorrect. Time will tell. Evidently I am going to have to start posting my own personal TOS with every post so that everyone doesn't get so damned defensive. LOL ... settle down... relax.

WARNING! Some of the content in this single post may contain offensive, humorous, inaccurate, summated, estimated, or assumed content and not intended for audiences who take certain content way too damned serious. Competent discretion is advised.

[paceman]

Hey, was that so hard? At least we now know why you feel the way you do.

I wasn't trying to provoke anyone, this IS serious stuff, I just wanted to know WHY you thought the way you did.

[-IRC-MIKE]

you can't just throw out some random wild thought without putting up a little thought as to WHY!

Why?

Some people just DO NOT have the ability to 'read between the lines' and I take my own ability to do so for granted. My apologies to those who cannot.

[xGoblin013x]

ANYONE BUT HILLARY 08

Exactly!
Im pretty Republican... but Obama seems like a nice guy, and he would do much better than Hillary.
I like Huckabee, mostly because he has Chuck Norris supporting him and he has "said" that Colbert will be his VP :twisted: (had South Carolina not denied him, I would have gone to SC and voted for him)
McCain used to be my favorite, but like ya'll have said he lost my vote when he stopped being straightforward.
Ron Paul and Mike Gravel are both crazy... you cannot deny that. They are crazy. Probably right, but still crazy.
Edwards. Meh, much better as a sidekick. Obama, Edwards would be ok for Pres.
Mitt "Robot" Romney= HELL NO. Not because he's Mormon, but because he just molds to whatever he needs to say.


And I might be the only person in the world who actually feels sorry for Bush. If 9/11 had not happened, he might have done the isolationist policy he had run on... Unfortunately, he had no choice but to go off into the wild brown East.
He didnt anticipate anything beyond Afghanistan... hence the stupidity which made everyone abandon ship after Iraq went sour.

[minfootball]

:soapbox:
:why:

[killa_zn]

If Obama wins, I'll be happy. If Hillary wins, I don't think I'll be living in the US for 4 years.

Canada or Mexico mate? we'll split the rent. :twisted: :twisted:

[TheSilentAssassin]

what was the saying again?

Obama wins move to Canada?

Clinton wins move to Europe?...LOL :D

[Thrashdragon]

Ron Paul and Mike Gravel are both crazy... you cannot deny that. They are crazy. Probably right, but still crazy.

Paul might be crazy for thinking he can win, but his ideas are what this country needs. Unfortunately, people are happy with the status quo, although for all the complaining they do, you'd think otherwise.

[Tails_Kitsune]

Im pretty Republican... but Obama seems like a nice guy, and he would do much better than Hillary.
I like Huckabee, mostly because he has Chuck Norris supporting him and he has "said" that Colbert will be his VP :twisted:

Agreed.

For Democrats, I think it's pretty much between Hillary and Obama. I personally would like to see Obama win, but don't know much about either, to be honest.

For Republicans, I would like McCain to win. He seems the most truthful and genuine out of the group. If McCain can't make it (though he seems to be doing well right now! :) ) I would like to see Huckabee win...not because of Chuck Norris or Colbert, but because I agree with a lot of his points.

[tupinambis]

IF... and I hope not for my own reasons... but IF Hillary Clinton wins the election and becomes our next president (god forbid), then there WILL NEVER be another male president .....probably won't even be any male candidates.

Call me old fashioned, but I don't want to see a change that dramatic. Even though George Bush and Jr. were father and son presidents, I don't think it should even be possible for your SPOUSE to be a candidate after you've already been president. She has already BEEN 'the first lady'! If that were to be the case, then hell why not change it where anyone who has ever been president for TWO Terms can run AGAIN after the two terms are over. There is too much political controversy.. or what I call 'conflict of interests'. What will Bill Clinton be called? The first lady? The first man? He's already been the first a lot of things but 'the first spouse' is not something I'm ready to see. It just doesn't seem right to me.

Hillary ... put the cigar down and back away slowly!

Wow. I for one saw this exactly as it was meant to be seen.

AND he's right, it doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure this one out guys. Women have been running countries for a long time and doing an excellent job at it. Half the time I think they are running them here in the U.S. but not many people take the time to think about it. If you married men take a moment and really credit some of the best decisions in your life to who they belong to, I can almost guarantee it wasnt a man behind those.....!

Damn I hate going against my own kind. :o

[Slaughter]

Paul might be crazy for thinking he can win, but his ideas are what this country needs. Unfortunately, people are happy with the status quo, although for all the complaining they do, you'd think otherwise.

QFT

[Zantheus]

Any of you watch the California Republican debate last night? They kind of gave Paul the cold shoulder and when he insisted he answer the questions they put him off and asked the front runners another one. Too bad because Paul is the only Republican with any brains and a true sense of running the country. To me it looked like MCain would take it to the bank but the reviews after and what voters rated him at he did horrible....he needs to smarten up because hes starting to get cocky and voters aren't likin it.... If Gulliani was there last night I bet he would have won the debates

[Thrashdragon]

Any of you watch the California Republican debate last night? They kind of gave Paul the cold shoulder and when he insisted he answer the questions they put him off and asked the front runners another one.

That's not the first time. That's because his answers promote real change, which is not something that the leaders of either major party want, and they have a lot of influence over the media, so they are doing the best to keep his ideas from being heard. I think that the greatest influence he will have on this election is to show informed voters that real change for the better is not possible within the current system.

Damn shame.

[LIMEY]

A picture is worth a thousand words:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y232/english911/thousandwords.jpg

[TheSilentAssassin]

A picture is worth a thousand words:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y232/english911/thousandwords.jpg

ROFL :D

[drunken_chef]

that's assuming you're calling what we have now as properity.

[Zantheus]

Did any of you watvh the debates last night?? I did and I sure have to say I was quite impressed with both Obama and Clinton with finally maturing and not acting like children. They were both respectful of eachother and in a way supportive on eachothers visions. I truly think by their reactions to the last question of the night " What do you think of a Obama-Clinton or Clinton-Obama Presidency" that if there have been no talks yet there def will be talks in the near future of doing so.. Clearly Clinton won the debates

[xGoblin013x]

Its only one debate... They'll rip at each other some more soon.
I bet they're only playing the nice card so that they can vie for Edwards endorsement.

You know who might fix all this? Teddy Roosevelt. Or maybe FD Roosevelt... They were the only presidents which nearly everyone liked during and after their presidency.

Washington might do it too, but it'd be too hard to get him used to cars... otherwise he'd inspire people to drop the party system.

[Thrashdragon]

After watching Hillary and Obama debate healthcare and the mortgage crisis tonight, I am completely terrified of both of them. Terrified enough that I will vote for whomever their opponent is, no matter who it is.

[TheSilentAssassin]

With Super Tuesday coming up, I will be going to the polls for the first time!! (my 18th birthday was last july). I am going to vote for John McCain.

[drunken_chef]

With Super Tuesday coming up, I will be going to the polls for the first time!! (my 18th birthday was last july). I am going to vote for John McCain.

you're as brain washed as he is :x

the one thing I will do for sure is vote AGAINST John McCain. do you people know his history?

[TheSilentAssassin]

With Super Tuesday coming up, I will be going to the polls for the first time!! (my 18th birthday was last july). I am going to vote for John McCain.

you're as brain washed as he is :x

the one thing I will do for sure is vote AGAINST John McCain. do you people know his history?

Ya, decorated soldier of Vietnam and was a POW for five years, served in the House of Representatives, then elected to the Senate for the state of Arizona, ran in 2000 but lost against Bush, but now running again.

[linemanstud]

3. I am a Lutheran (Christian) and have been my whole life. Both my parents played high parts in the church and i attend and believe as much as possible. But i still support a leader with a muslim background. Islam is the second most popular religion on this planet and for good reason. Yes worship practices and historical beliefs may differ greatly from christianity, but the morals of islam are very very good. Its only a small portion of that religion that is messed up, and christians arent unlike that either. Westboro Baptist is an example, or the crusades... Having a president with a muslim background may win us some simpathy points from the middle eastern countries, and also allow us to better understand and react to the differences in culture that arise from interactions in the middle east.

:D

I know I should just tell you this in the room, but I just cant wait (mostly because I will forget). Islam is the most popular religion on the planet, not second. You have to realize that large parts of Africa, Asia, and even Europe are largely Islamic. That doesn't include all of the Islamic believers here in the USA.

ANYWAY

I say go Obama. I like that he is from my state. I like that he has the Islamic background. That will help to make us some friends. I also don't like Hilary because of the way that she took Bill cheating on her. I really did like him as president, but she is a different person with different ideals. For those who may care, I am a republican, however I think that at this point a Democrat will do us more good in office.

I know I'm kinda all over the place, but it is 5:30am here and I woke up 2 hours ago after 3 hours of sleep.

[Rand{CLR}]

After watching Hillary and Obama debate healthcare and the mortgage crisis tonight, I am completely terrified of both of them. Terrified enough that I will vote for whomever their opponent is, no matter who it is.

Ah, but what would THEIR opinion be of healthcare and the mortgage crisis?

It's all relative.

-Rand

[drunken_chef]

With Super Tuesday coming up, I will be going to the polls for the first time!! (my 18th birthday was last july). I am going to vote for John McCain.

you're as brain washed as he is :x

the one thing I will do for sure is vote AGAINST John McCain. do you people know his history?

Ya, decorated soldier of Vietnam and was a POW for five years, served in the House of Representatives, then elected to the Senate for the state of Arizona, ran in 2000 but lost against Bush, but now running again.

I apologies for that statement. it was rude and uncalled for.

I would like anyone thinking about voting for McCain to do google searches for "keating 5" and "John McCain Manchurian". read what a number of his fellow POWs think of him.

[-IRC-MIKE]

I know I should just tell you this in the room, but I just cant wait (mostly because I will forget). Islam is the most popular religion on the planet, not second. You have to realize that large parts of Africa, Asia, and even Europe are largely Islamic. That doesn't include all of the Islamic believers here in the USA.
Yeah, I believe that could be true, but what difference does it really make?


ANYWAY

I say go Obama. I like that he is from my state. I like that he has the Islamic background. That will help to make us some friends.
Please explain HOW this is going to make us some friends. Then explain how it is NOT going to make us more enemies than it does friends?



I also don't like Hilary because of the way that she took Bill cheating on her. I really did like him as president, but she is a different person with different ideals. For those who may care, I am a republican, however I think that at this point a Democrat will do us more good in office.

I'm with you on that.. I think she'll be out for revenge toward men because she sure as hell has been tight lipped about the shyt that Bill got himself into and I think she has a point to make... God knows what.


I don't know anyone, outside of the local convenience store owners, who would even come close to having an islamic background. I guess it is because I'm from the south and there aren't many. I still fail to see how this will "HELP" us as a nation by having a president with a so called "islamic background".

The first thing he'd have to do to make any friends by having this relation is to withdraw all troops from iraq?

[drunken_chef]

interesting, Obama says he does not have an "Islamic background" :? or at least, he says he is a faithful christian.

[TheSilentAssassin]

With Super Tuesday coming up, I will be going to the polls for the first time!! (my 18th birthday was last july). I am going to vote for John McCain.

you're as brain washed as he is :x

the one thing I will do for sure is vote AGAINST John McCain. do you people know his history?

Ya, decorated soldier of Vietnam and was a POW for five years, served in the House of Representatives, then elected to the Senate for the state of Arizona, ran in 2000 but lost against Bush, but now running again.

I apologies for that statement. it was rude and uncalled for.

I would like anyone thinking about voting for McCain to do google searches for "keating 5" and "John McCain Manchurian". read what a number of his fellow POWs think of him.

you do realize that he refused release as a POW until all those captured before him were released right? And I would think that most people would break after 5 years o torture at the hands of the North Vietnamese and make propaganda statements. I don't think that anyone here could say that they wouldn't break even after being constantly tortured, NO ONE.
So before you make statements saying that he has brainwashed us, you might want to be aware that, though this is my first time voting, I am very aware of who the candidates are, what they believe in, and yes I know their history. My beliefs and stands on certain issues are the most similar to that of John McCain which is why I will be voting for him Feb. 5. So before you try to insult a man who has had a record of distinguished service, loyalty, and patriotism to this country, I suggest that YOU should know his record. :D :P

[LIMEY]

The problem I have with John McCain is that he is NOT a conservative! As I see this election taking shpe I see Hillary McCain vs John Clinton :(

[TheSilentAssassin]

The problem I have with John McCain is that he is NOT a conservative! As I see this election taking shpe I see Hillary McCain vs John Clinton :(

Really? :shock:

I would have thought that it would be Obama Vs. McCain (who would win of course :D )

[drunken_chef]

kyle, your statements show that you won't read any of those google hits. vote for the man you want. GG

[TheSilentAssassin]

kyle, your statements show that you won't read any of those google hits. vote for the man you want. GG

You have your opinion, and I have mine. Its called democracy.

[paceman]

The problem I have with John McCain is that he is NOT a conservative! As I see this election taking shpe I see Hillary McCain vs John Clinton :(
+1

No matter if it's McCain vs Billary or Obama, a Liberal is going to the Whitehouse.

[minfootball]

I know I should just tell you this in the room, but I just cant wait (mostly because I will forget). Islam is the most popular religion on the planet, not second. You have to realize that large parts of Africa, Asia, and even Europe are largely Islamic. That doesn't include all of the Islamic believers here in the USA.

your retarded i went through world religion last semester
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Worldwide_percentage_of_Adherents_by_Religio n.png
stop always trying to be right and go to class
then you wont make these silly mistakes :D

[-IRC-MIKE]

A-Men!

P.S. That class had to SUCK!

[xGoblin013x]

The problem I have with John McCain is that he is NOT a conservative! As I see this election taking shpe I see Hillary McCain vs John Clinton :(
+1

No matter if it's McCain vs Billary or Obama, a Liberal is going to the Whitehouse.

Well, what else can the Republicans do? Paul is practically the only pure Conservative, and he'll never stand a chance against how the media has largely ignored him and tried to portray every stand of his as insane...
I thin he's insane for thinking he could possibly win, but I really don't know what to think about his policies.... they sound as if they might work, but they are so "out-there" that few people comprehend them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Worldwide_percentage_of_Adherents_by_Religio n.png
I swear I thought there were more Jews than that... are you completely sure thats accurate? I mean, nothing against your class, but wikipedia is sometimes a little off...[/quote]
my girlfriend is jewish, which is why I care, wierd isn't it?

[minfootball]

well no statistics are ever precise but the figures are something along those lines.
remember this only counts religious jews this doesnt count ethnic jews with other beliefs :2thumbs:

[(DSP)-Bar]

I know I should just tell you this in the room, but I just cant wait (mostly because I will forget). Islam is the most popular religion on the planet, not second. You have to realize that large parts of Africa, Asia, and even Europe are largely Islamic. That doesn't include all of the Islamic believers here in the USA.


Don't want to burst your bubble but Islam is not the biggest in the world and it never will be.


http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/7848/percentageskg6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
This 2000 Percentages but it is close enough to the truth.

[Rand{CLR}]

Bar's right about current day, but not the future. Don't forget to factor in birth rates. There are a heck of a lot more Muslims, Buddists, and Hindus being born every day than Christians.

-Rand

[(DSP)-Bar]

Bar's right about current day, but not the future. Don't forget to factor in birth rates. There are a heck of a lot more Muslims, Buddists, and Hindus being born every day than Christians.

-Rand


True... but in most Muslim/Hindu countries the death rate is a lot higher and their lifespans are a lot shorter due to sickness and war/violence.

[-IRC-MIKE]

Good Point!

[BigTwinky]

Awesome, I'm an "Other"

[(DSP)-Bar]

Awesome, I'm an "Other"


Yup, The French have their own category. "other"

lol we love yas anyway Twink

[Apache Warrior]

I have always felt that our ballots should have "None Of The Above" as a choice. If NOTA wins then they have to hold another election and the previous candidates are not allowed to run.
Apache

[paceman]

I have always felt that our ballots should have "None Of The Above" as a choice. If NOTA wins then they have to hold another election and the previous candidates are not allowed to run.
Apache
+1 bajillion

Apache for President!!


Apache in '08!!

[Todd98]

Well could it be between McCain and Clinton! :?

[xGoblin013x]

Well could it be between McCain and Clinton! :?

I think we have come to the consensus that the Dems aren't that stupid...
1.) She polarizes everyone
2.) She's a peice of Mercury... flows to all positions and is poisonous
3.) She'll be dead two weeks after the Election, if by some miracle she is elected.... this is not a threat by me, it is a prediction.

[(DSP)-Bar]

It will be McCain vs Obama which will most likely mean that McCain will win.

[TheSilentAssassin]

Well could it be between McCain and Clinton! :?

I think we have come to the consensus that the Dems aren't that stupid...
1.) She polarizes everyone
2.) She's a peice of Mercury... flows to all positions and is poisonous
3.) She'll be dead two weeks after the Election, if by some miracle she is elected.... this is not a threat by me, it is a prediction.

You could probably put money on that and win :D