Is it worth it? - purely based on the beta at this point

[Master_Chief_Alpha]

Is it worth the purchase when released?

[darth_nevus]

too soon to tell. alot of stuff gets left out of demo packages that make it to realease. better sounds, graphics, physics, etc. the beta is but a stripped down version to test code bugs. that all.

too soon to tell. i'll wait for the demo to make my mind up.

[KJHenf]

IMO it sucks. Then again its because I feel the objectives are boring, gameplay is dull, and the graphics are hardly pleasing. Most of this is because its a BETA, sure, but I'm going to base my decision of the BETA and demo, not hope that the game is going to get better! From what I've played now, I'll stick to BF and get UT when it's out, if nothing else this'll save me 50 bucks.

KJ

[Master_Chief_Alpha]

Kihenf, Please feel free to be brutally honest.

LOL

:2thumbs:

MCA

[Murphy420]

I don't like it as well. :( I thinking I'm just going to wait for UT to come out and get it. :wink:

[KJHenf]

Kihenf, Please feel free to be brutally honest.

LOL

:2thumbs:

MCA

haha I gave it alot of time too, and I was really excited about it, heck I tried to make it seem good, but to me, it just wasnt cuttin it :(

[Thrashdragon]

I was completely underwhelmed by the beta, and I really, really wanted to like this game. I haven't had the urge to play it again after the initial couple of days when I got the client.

I will not be buying this.

[Rand{CLR}]

Since the question was "based on the beta," the answer is a clear and definitive "NO." The game basically sucks, and it's certainly not worth a purchase. The way it is now, I wouldn't even buy it at my 20 buck magic price point for older titles.

I didn't have the same level of expectation as most of you, perhaps because I never played ET and didn't like the Quake series that much, but I'm still disappointed in this game. There is potential, but it's almost without exception wasted.

-Rand

[Master_Chief_Alpha]

Since the question was "based on the beta"

Thank you. That's what I was trying to find out.

MCA

[jaspurr]

An absolute no from me at the moment. I thought I was in 2142 and I did not like 2142 so it is just another 2142 lookalike for me.

[Ghost_Rain]

I have it on per order at them moment.

[paceman]

Base solely on the beta, No. $20 tops.

It would take some pretty serious improvements to get me to plop down the going rate of about $50.

[CarbonFire]

Very overpromised

Very underdelivered (at least at this point in the beta)

If this beta was released late last year, when the game was originally advertised to come out, then I would have given SD a pass. But this game has been supposedly done for almost a year, and they have been doing intense balancing and network tweaking. And if that's the case, then wtf have they been doing for a year? The models, the maps, the overall artwork and look of the game has changed little for almost a year now, and a LOT of the assets they've been showing since 2005 when the first real promos started propping up.

I think its either A) SD just can't figure out how to squeeze a true MP game out of the Doom 3 engine or B) NO ONE can.

I'm leaning towards B, as we've yet to see a successful MP game based off D3. I thought for sure given SD's success in the past that they'd pull this one off. But it seems choosing the D3 engine for this game was a big mistake. (like they had a choice when its called Quake Wars :roll: )

I'm still leaning towards "Too soon to tell" (hope springs eternal), but the realist in me wants to make the leap straight to "Naaa"

[dirtyoldgoat]

Too soon to tell...

The map they've currently got us playing really kinda sucks. I think a lot of people are lost because there's little to no documentation, hell I couldn't even find a way to change my keybinds. As far as gameplay, it looks a lot like BF2142 and plays a lot like UT2k4 in Assault mode.

If you ever played the original Enemy Territory, this is definitely easy to get into and it feels very similar. As far as the negatives, I think it may be that people are too used to playing BF2, this is supposed to be quick game where you die A LOT...notice that they don't show Kills/Deaths in the scoreboard.
This game is about completing specific objectives and going crazy. This will be the type of game where a single person CAN win the whole friggin' map.

So far, I've noticed a few glaring imbalances, but otherwise it seems like fun, I haven't fully made up my mind though...

[KJHenf]

the no tutorial/how to play the game thing really hurts too, if it werent for that I might say "too soon to tell" but I have little confidence that I'm going to be purchasing this game :|

[Duke{CLR}]

Hey its a beta and it is too soon to tell you if I would drop any $ on it yet. Maybe we will get a better look when the demo comes out.

I like the fast paced action and the fact that it works on my laptop. :2thumbs:

[BlackArrow]

No thank you. Hey, it's Activision so I guess that is why it feels really old and outdated. DOA in my opinion.

[LIMEY]

I would tell Cain not to waste $$$ or bandwidth on it.......it will have a very short lifespan.

[ChrisWW11]

a definite NO this beta already has too many bugs and the game play is impossible to play and have fun. The first 2 minutes playing i thought to myself that i could give this game a try but after all the hurt my eyes went through looking at the screen its sad and disappointing. Everyone thought that this beta would rock but in the end it didn't.

[CarbonFire]

I would tell Cain not to waste $$$ or bandwidth on it.......it will have a very short lifespan.
Naw, it'll be around a while. There will be a hardcore group of players that play it continually ad nauseum because they are fans of ET and don't mind doing the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over....


.....again.

Not saying Cain should run a server though....this gme would have to get a LOT better than it is now, and I'm just not sure they'll be able to pull it off now.

Bring on UT3 perhaps?

[paceman]

Fer sure.

There was quite a group on a server the other night that couldn't stop singing this games praises.

th1z game ownz!!1111!

[Aidan]

Not for me. I am really looking forward to Crysis. That is where my money is going.

Did you know that Intel has 3500 software developers and Intel has dedicated 500 of those software developers to the Crytek development team for Crysis. Some of the Intel team work is to make sure Crysis can use the new Intel Core 2 Duo and Quad processors.

Nvidia is also heavily involved with the graphics develpment.

I am gearing up for the hardware change. I am gonna pick myself up a nice little GeForce 8800 GTX watercooled and plug it in for my DX10 and Vista gameplay.

SCHWEEEEETTTT !!!!

Cain ... get ready to gear up for this one in the Fall. This one is gonna need a BEEFY server !

:2thumbs:

Another good thing about Crysis is the complete CryEngine2 Sandbox editor will be included with the game. And Crytek remains committed to the MOD community even though they are releasing this with EA. So creating new maps will be very possible.

[ChrisWW11]

oh yea crysis is gonna be so good but im gonna need to get sli 8800gtx's to play it on a 27 inch and who voted yes?

[jaspurr]

oh yea crysis is gonna be so good but im gonna need to get sli 8800gtx's to play it on a 27 inch and who voted yes?

Not me :|

[Dead_And_Gone]

I've looked at Crysis, and it is appealing on the surface.
Halo3 requires Vista, so if there is an emulator out there, I'd try it, but not losing my XP Pro.

UT? Will see..

I vote NO on ETQW. Little to no description of anything, no documentation to be found, and they've had this for HOW LONG???
If they wanted people's gaming experience to be fun, they would have come out with the information readily available. Someone in the PR department SUCKS for ETQW.

It just doesn't get me all atingle. Doesn't have the pizzaz that I expected. When I get in a state of the art game, I expect a WOW factor, but it just isn't there. If they REALLY wanted people to get excited about the game, they would have made it closer to the final version. Putting out a Beta that may be 6 months or a year old is VERY POOR PR. That is IF in fact this is a bare bones old version of the end product. Somehow I have the sneaking suspicion that the end product IS very close to the Beta. So Sad.

Cain, be grateful that they denied letting you host. :D

[Master_Chief_Alpha]

Halo3 requires Vista, so if there is an emulator out there, I'd try it, but not losing my XP Pro.

Halo 3 is a xbox 360 exclusive. They aren't releasing a version for Vista.

MCA

[ChrisWW11]

i thought they were going to release Halo 3 for the computer after halo 3 for the 360 came out?

[Master_Chief_Alpha]

i thought they were going to release Halo 3 for the computer after halo 3 for the 360 came out?

Yes, but probably years later. For example, Halo 2 was released for the original Xbox in 2004. It was just now released exclusively for Vista.

It takes years.

MCA

[Ghost_Rain]

Well i have Halo 2 on my other rig and it sucks i would rather play it on the xbox.

[darth_nevus]

i'll have to agree on the Bargin bin price point on this one. its more on the catagory of needing to be free, but a fair amount of work appears to have gone into it. i enjoy it, but the same way i enjoy'd W:ET while playing bf2142. its a good distraction.

its a completely differeny game genere for an FPS. thats what makes it so hard to accept though. kinda like COD vs BF. things are far too different from what we are all used to. whichi is why its a great distraction game. but $50 is a far cry from acceptable for the content delivered at this point. once the beta is done, and a democomes out, ill truly make up my mind. but the beta is well, a beta. code compiled for bug resolution. i can't truly make a judgement as far as to wther or not its truly worth it.

[(DSP)-Bar]

i thought they were going to release Halo 3 for the computer after halo 3 for the 360 came out?

Yes, but probably years later. For example, Halo 2 was released for the original Xbox in 2004. It was just now released exclusively for Vista.

It takes years.

MCA


what ??? I can buy halo 3 for pc at my local walmart...

[darth_nevus]

if Halo3 is based off dx10, m$ has axed the xp pro ability for dx10 at this time, and is mandating to everyone that it will not be available for xp pro at this time. so i doubt an emulator will be available.

[dirtyoldgoat]

*cough*

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070626-vista-only-game-cracked-to-run-on-xp.html

*cough*

and http://www.fallingleafsystems.com/

*double cough*

If only we lived in a world where everything Microsoft said were true...

[Grisu]

Naaaaaaa +1 :|

[Master_Chief_Alpha]

i thought they were going to release Halo 3 for the computer after halo 3 for the 360 came out?

Yes, but probably years later. For example, Halo 2 was released for the original Xbox in 2004. It was just now released exclusively for Vista.

It takes years.

MCA


what ??? I can buy halo 3 for pc at my local walmart...

find me a link anywhere on the internet selling preorders for Halo 3 for PC.

[KJHenf]

i thought they were going to release Halo 3 for the computer after halo 3 for the 360 came out?

Yes, but probably years later. For example, Halo 2 was released for the original Xbox in 2004. It was just now released exclusively for Vista.

It takes years.

MCA


what ??? I can buy halo 3 for pc at my local walmart...

they just released Halo 2 for pc... are you sure?

[Master_Chief_Alpha]

i thought they were going to release Halo 3 for the computer after halo 3 for the 360 came out?

Yes, but probably years later. For example, Halo 2 was released for the original Xbox in 2004. It was just now released exclusively for Vista.

It takes years.

MCA


what ??? I can buy halo 3 for pc at my local walmart...

they just released Halo 2 for pc... are you sure?

Exactly what I'm saying. Halo 2 is out, but Halo 3 will be only for xbox 360 when released. At least for a while.

MCA

[(DSP)-Bar]

I was pretty sure it said 3 on the box... I will have to look at it when I am over there next. I'm not a halo fan so I don't know a lot about it. So I could very well be wrong :D

[KJHenf]

I was pretty sure it said 3 on the box... I will have to look at it when I am over there next. I'm not a halo fan so I don't know a lot about it. So I could very well be wrong :D

Halo 3 isnt even out for Xbox :twisted:

[darth_nevus]

*cough*

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070626-vista-only-game-cracked-to-run-on-xp.html

*cough*

and http://www.fallingleafsystems.com/

*double cough*

If only we lived in a world where everything Microsoft said were true...


i was referring to dx10 only games, such as crysis. i fully suspect that someone will find a way to defeat this, much as the folks did with Wine and directX. but, MS is being the stickler about it.

MS said they would not be doing anything DX10 related for xp pro/home. and said they would not allow it. the vista crack for XP is a great one though. i personally refuse to get vista until i absolutly have to. and if they can make this and other apps run on xp, i'm all for it. its the same spiel i gave when win98 vs xp came out(windows me doesn't count. its the bastard child of microsoft, and i don't think anyone truly embraced it, ever.) the eventual move will happen, but the longer i can hold off thanks to folks like those, the better.

[Dead_And_Gone]

I thought I saw it in Target, will swing by again to reverify.
I Thought it was Halo3 for Vista, but the eyes are old. :twisted:

[glasscasket]

I'm not going to bother buying this.


It's nothing new. I'll be waiting for Crysis.

[Slaughter]

For those who don't have the beta (and thus shouldn't vote just to find out), what's the poll at now?

[Rand{CLR}]

For those who don't have the beta (and thus shouldn't vote just to find out), what's the poll at now?

Yes: 1
No: 19
Too soon to tell: 12
Won't run: 0

-Rand

[darth_nevus]

For those who don't have the beta (and thus shouldn't vote just to find out), what's the poll at now?

you can click on "view poll results" nder the poll and it'll show you an up to date version.

[LIMEY]

On the Beta alone this game is an absolute flop!

[Slaughter]

For those who don't have the beta (and thus shouldn't vote just to find out), what's the poll at now?

you can click on "view poll results" nder the poll and it'll show you an up to date version.

Thanks. Never noticed that "View Results" was a link. :)

[Dead_And_Gone]

As any new operating system comes out, I'm always WAY behind getting it. Why you ask?

BUGS BUGS BUGS

Things aren't compatible, crashes, things Should work but don't, etc....
6 months down the line, they will have fixed most of the bugs, and I MIGHT consider rolling over. :)

Win98 had lots of patches.
XP had their share also.

[imlittlev]

*cough*

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070626-vista-only-game-cracked-to-run-on-xp.html

*cough*

and http://www.fallingleafsystems.com/

*double cough*

If only we lived in a world where everything Microsoft said were true...


i was referring to dx10 only games, such as crysis. i fully suspect that someone will find a way to defeat this, much as the folks did with Wine and directX. but, MS is being the stickler about it.

MS said they would not be doing anything DX10 related for xp pro/home. and said they would not allow it. the vista crack for XP is a great one though. i personally refuse to get vista until i absolutly have to. and if they can make this and other apps run on xp, i'm all for it. its the same spiel i gave when win98 vs xp came out(windows me doesn't count. its the bastard child of microsoft, and i don't think anyone truly embraced it, ever.) the eventual move will happen, but the longer i can hold off thanks to folks like those, the better.

+1. XP FTW!!!

[ChrisWW11]

On the Beta alone this game is an absolute flop!couldn't have said it any better and y did we put a too soon to tell if we were solely basing this game on the beta? just a thought

[Aidan]

This game does not play well with my dual ATI X1900 XTX cards in Crossfire config. I have to disable the Crossfire capability to play this game.

Another strike against it, IMHO.

:thumbd:

[Rand{CLR}]

It would be very interesting to see just how many preorders are now being cancelled based on the Beta.

-Rand

[xX_vador_Xx]

just my 2 cents. I pre orderd this a while ago and played the beta for many hours to give it a chance. I was VERY disappointed. And I play many types of games not just BF games. I cancelled my pre order. The most you will see change between beta and final game now is maybe balancing of weapons blah blah blah. To late for them to re build the thing. It was a shame but oh well. With this being one of the many games coming out in the coming months one of them had to suck. COD4/crysis/front lines here i come! And it is a horrible game to be shout casted online. I tried watching team hot take on some team today and the game just can't be shown live. It was bad. I minimized it and just listened to the Game Caster talk about what was going on.

[GeneralSnake]

I am seriously only #2 to say it wont run. :oops: Oh well. Needs an uprgade, or maybe save up for some good amount of time and get a nice new system.

[Ghost_Rain]

Well i'm beging to change my mind about the game now i've played the beta 2 so yes i may buy the game.

[ghostchicken]

Beta1 sucked. Beta2 is a lot of fun. Don't decide until the demo.

Its not UT, but it sucks me in for hours. If there are several great maps, it's bone fide.

[Rand{CLR}]

Beta1 sucked. Beta2 is a lot of fun. Don't decide until the demo.

Its not UT, but it sucks me in for hours. If there are several great maps, it's bone fide.

I didn't like Beta 2 much more than Beta 1. They didn't seem to fix much of anything. I'll play the demo, but there's pretty much no way I'll buy the game, even at the $20 bargain price.

-Rand

[Mojo]

I am pretty sure I will buy it.

[CarbonFire]

I was at one point a solid buy....but now I'm starting to waver. I tend not to spend too much time with multiple games of the same genre, as I find the control schemes are often very different and only cause me a headache trying to remember what's what. If Quake wars was the only thing coming out (say, if it had come out when they were supposed to last year :P ), then I would have bought it for sure. But now things like UT3, Halo 3 and others are close at hand, which means I'll either have to forgo the others to play this, or just let this one slip by the wayside.

Which is sad in a way, because this was potentially the last game on the horizon after BF2142 that I could ever hope to play on Cain's Lair :cry:
(mumbles something about the stupid Hillbilly Net :soapbox: :roll: )

[tayeke]

I was impressed with how the game played on my computer. First game I've ever had that was optomized for my dual core CPU.

I can see how the game would be a "no" though, because I don't think I contributed once to the actual missions. I just enjoyed ploping down big tactical strikes on everyone!

[Grisu]

Here in Europe you can buy the game quite cheap nowaddays.
Was very disappointed about the demo. So I will skip this one.

New free time available for other games... :D

[Ghost_Rain]

The Games as improved hell of over the demo I love playing QW now so if u can find a cheap copy buy it because not it getting a big following.

[Toryu72]

How much has been improved Ghost Rain?

Last time i was playing it was in the demo, which i did not like at all, graphic was crappy..

[Ghost_Rain]

How much has been improved Ghost Rain?

Last time i was playing it was in the demo, which i did not like at all, graphic was crappy..

The Lasr time I played the Game in run so nice and All the bugs have been Fiexed in the game and they are a lot more people playing the game these days:2thumbs:

[Toryu72]

The Lasr time I played the Game in run so nice and All the bugs have been Fiexed in the game and they are a lot more people playing the game these days:2thumbs:

Ok, i shall give the game a fair chance again :wink:
Saw they have lower the prices now. :D
Join up soon. Hmm did you had Xfire or something else? Well steam you had right? I think i have you there..on my list!