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ViTO
21st Dec 2007, 04:39 PM
:D

I gotta say, I have no problem with a well tossed grenade thru a window or into a door way.

BUT

When I see the random grenades flying thru the map, in which the player has absolutely NO IDEA where it lands :roll: This is by far the cheapest tactic of all. :P

Yeah yeah complain all you want about me and my last stand deaths BUT c'mon at least I'm aiming at you !!!

LIMIT GRENDADES !!! or even create a class with 2 players per side.
All others must pick them up from dead guys < if availible > or something.

GRENADE SPAMMERS :thumbd: 2 Thumbs way down :thumbd: and YOU KNOW WHO YOUE ARE !!

let the flames begin.... :flamer:

juneau
21st Dec 2007, 04:42 PM
I always know where i'm throwing my nades. :D Just because you don't see me it doesn't mean i haven't seen you. :P

LIMEY
21st Dec 2007, 04:48 PM
I agree with ya VITO, mostly because you said the drinks are on you next Thursday.........it is acctually one of the most common forms of death I have on some maps, and the kill cam clearly shows it.

I would love to see reflect damage turned on so most of those grenades will kill the guys who throw them

thedeadlyassassin
21st Dec 2007, 04:59 PM
Vacant sucks with grenades, it made me stop playing. It's basically watch the bombs hit you and try to dodge them!

Use a grenade all you want, but the spammings got to stop. They need to make it a perk to add grenades, that way I can enjoy my sniping in a map like strike without a random nade landing on my ass.

I NEVER throw a grenade, if I kill you with one it's yours or it's the fact I know where it's going. As for spamming, I did that once, when my KD was really low because I was being spammed by grenades, and wanted to show them how much it sucks. I actually got caught back up :D

Cain
21st Dec 2007, 05:14 PM
Folks hate to die.

They hate: snipers, P90's, grenades, airstrikes, Helicopters, etc., etc., etc.....

The grenades are a part of the game, a large part, if they kill you, toss some of your own.

-- Cain

{CLR}geneSW
21st Dec 2007, 05:19 PM
I would love to see it to where you can have either 2 hand grenades or 2 "special" grenades, or 2 M203 rounds, but not all of it at the same time.... it's a bit much. I've even lobed 2 203 rounds in the air before simply to see if it would work on a small map....AND IT DID! :o :shock: I'm sorry, but in real combat, you wouldn't be throwing random grenades around like that and I wish it would quit here, but I highly doubt it will.

BTW, I know that this isn't real combat, but dang it they modeled the weapons after the real ones (to an extent) and I would love it if they would do the same for grenades! I'm sorry but I can't stand it when there's a grenade that's a floor above me and goes off, AND KILLS ME IN THE PROCESS! Come on! It's a floor above me, i'd hear it sure, but unless the floor's where made out of only 2 bits of plywood and some 2x4's then it wouldn't go through. I'm also really sick of grenade blasts going THROUGH concrete walls!


And don't get me started in the M203 rounds.....

(DSP)-Bar
21st Dec 2007, 05:34 PM
I always make sure I throw my nades before I die... If I know I am going to die I will throw my nade first.

Premonition
21st Dec 2007, 05:53 PM
Folks hate to die.

They hate: snipers, P90's, grenades, airstrikes, Helicopters, etc., etc., etc.....

The grenades are a part of the game, a large part, if they kill you, toss some of your own.

-- Cain


To true..... there is porbably people who hate the snowman in the new xmas level :) and everyone loves snowpeople.

But i love metradome (sp?) where you drop the gernade when you die. Ive loved it since the first time unlocked it. I dont care if other people use it, but its one of my favorite perks.
Im not a big nade person but i do look at the map and will chuck if there is red dots. Im shocked no one has fussed about flashbangs. In bf2 people cried foul left and right about them. But then again there was vehicles (the root of all that is evil). But with almost 50 players, they could have sling shots and there would be slingshot spam flying everywhere.

Like in ut2k4 with mini guns and goo guns and link. Just shoot and hope for the best. best way to avoid nade spam is try and avoid common choke points. Usually the same spots on the same maps every time become a cluster and where ever there is a cluster there will be people nade`ing.

As far as last stand... most people dont like it because other players can get the kill. I dont like it because it slows your respawn down. I liked it in beta though for a few days. As soon as i die, im ready to respawn and last stand just takes to long for me. Thats why i like the drop a nade thing. Its cool seeing the guy who just knifed you dance around as he sees the nade on the ground.

To each their own though. But seeing yeah the +3 special perk +1 frag is kinda over kill for nades. Ive seen my share of people chuck, chuck,chuck,chuck.... though.

Ghost_Rain
21st Dec 2007, 06:01 PM
I just throw them and hope for the best :twisted: But I love leaving my Xmas boom when I die :twisted:

BlackArrow
21st Dec 2007, 06:03 PM
I always know where i'm throwing my nades. :D Just because you don't see me it doesn't mean i haven't seen you. :P

+1

Rand{CLR}
21st Dec 2007, 06:06 PM
At least you guys don't have people hop in Spammers and Hellbenders and push your tank off of 200 foot cliffs because they are annoyed that you took "their" tank at spawn when they were halfway across the maps.

I'll take a bit of nade spam over that BS any day. :D

-Rand

Cain
21st Dec 2007, 06:10 PM
At least you guys don't have people hop in Spammers and Hellbenders and push your tank off of 200 foot cliffs because they are annoyed that you took "their" tank at spawn when they were halfway across the maps.

I'll take a bit of nade spam over that BS any day. :D

-Rand

Great point.

{CLR}geneSW
21st Dec 2007, 06:40 PM
At least you guys don't have people hop in Spammers and Hellbenders and push your tank off of 200 foot cliffs because they are annoyed that you took "their" tank at spawn when they were halfway across the maps.

I'll take a bit of nade spam over that BS any day. :D

-Rand

i'd take that bs over the nade spam personally. The tank can push back and takes quite a bit of force to really move it fast. Grenades you can't really push back, and most people hold them long enough for the nade to explode upon impact... which is crap as well! The mechanical train that is required for the grenade to function won't start it's countdown until the grenade it thrown (thus causing the crescent shaped handle to leave the grenade which is what holds the detonator in place)... But anyways...

ViTO
21st Dec 2007, 06:41 PM
Folks hate to die.

They hate: snipers, P90's, grenades, airstrikes, Helicopters, etc., etc., etc.....

The grenades are a part of the game, a large part, if they kill you, toss some of your own.

-- Cain

as most of you know.....I have NO PROBLEM dying :twisted: I still play this game like UT........ I will attack areas just like nodes !! ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK !!

But guys throwing them clear across the map with NO IDEA where they land is ridiculous. There should be some type of limit or even EXTRA BONUS for the GOOD naders !! and deductions for the spammers.

I LIKE and UNDERSTAND the need for them, I wouldn't want mine taken away. But I throw them only when theres a GOOD CHANCE of getting me out of trouble.

and LIMEY thursday sounds good, I will PM you guys with DETAILS !!

Duke{CLR}
21st Dec 2007, 06:50 PM
I was irritated by the nade spam also but I figured that if you can't beat them you might as well join them. I can't wait to unlock the extra nades so I can throw more nades in the enemies general direction at the earliest possible moment so I don't die with any of them unused. I also love the martyrdom unlock even after throwing all the nades I spawned with I get that one extra nade to take someone with me. :twisted:

Cold Catalyst
21st Dec 2007, 06:57 PM
Whether they're being spammed or not I still manage to step on those buggers

:x <-- That's me spawning, made about dieing to a nade, going into combat and dieing again.

ghostiger
21st Dec 2007, 07:30 PM
PROBLEM -i agree that nades spamming sux..... MY SOLUTION-i know this is realy farfetched but i wish, that on all of spawnpoints when u spawn there is like a coloured circle around u and u cant be naded or airstrik'ed but can be shot... and once u leave it it goes away so no one else uses it for protection......

i told u ... farfetched. lol

i hope that its possible. lols

RobotBanana
21st Dec 2007, 08:16 PM
I usually don't have a problem with 'nade spamming, but it's a bit much on Vacant. You can't turn a corner without being 'sploded.

Kusanagi
21st Dec 2007, 08:18 PM
I guess I should warn everyone that my next promotion gets me the x3 frag perk :twisted:

A1B2C3CAL
21st Dec 2007, 09:35 PM
It's part of the game...if I can kill an enemy with it I will use it. I can play all tactical and what not but with this many people on small maps I get every kill I can when I can it doesn't matter to me how I get them.

I get killed by snipers, nades, airstrike spam etc.. but it just gives me the incentive to kill more enemies. Small maps with large ammounts of players=mayhem.

I notice people sprinting around running by enemies and not even knowing they just ran by a bad guy lol it pisses me off more than nade spammers. People most of the time don't even know where the so called front is during a game...I know spawns change but some players just put there back to a corner and kill what runs by them, is that wrong? I don't let it get to me, as Cain said folks hate to die, me included but its part of playing and FPS even in tactical FPS games like GRAW and Rainbow 6 nade spammers are present. Watch your six, take cover when needed and keep on the move.

The CoD series was founded on nade spam. :D

Mobojo
21st Dec 2007, 09:52 PM
Yea, I hate the nade spammers. The only times I use nades is to clear a room I know the enemy is guarding or to slow down some guys from storming the room im in, and I know they are about to run in.

CarbonFire
21st Dec 2007, 11:44 PM
Dr Fraglove Or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Spam :D

Great flick....playing daily on a Cain's Lair server near you :twisted:

Dead_And_Gone
22nd Dec 2007, 12:17 AM
Yes, I was turned off by the Newb Toobs and Nade spamming at first.
Spawn, die, spawn, die, rinse and repeat.
Now I have to play more tactical to avoid the high nade areas.
There are certain choke points that are natural nade magnets.

Today, I think I killed 5 people in a congested area. I threw and bounced
it off a head of a hard charging marine, back to me. An enemny charged
me, killed me, and my nade vaporized us both. :2thumbs:
Other times, I'd hit walls or whatever, someone was trying to knife me,
or shoot me in the back, and got waxed and buffed along with
me. :twisted:

You learn to deal with them, really. Just like you deal with a sniper that
you can't get close to, and is wiping out your entire flank. :pissed:
Just part of the game. :wink:

Pain_Killer{CLR}
22nd Dec 2007, 12:37 AM
I think that the very limited map selection, causes people to know the maps very well , which causes them to anticipate where to throw a random nade.
especially when the kill cam is active it just causes people to go for the revenge kill with a nade or a good charge.
Also when theres no friendly fire on ,theres no harm is throwing a random grenade.

RobotBanana
22nd Dec 2007, 10:57 AM
I think that the very limited map selection, causes people to know the maps very well , which causes them to anticipate where to throw a random nade.

Bingo. I do that all the time. There are certain areas where there are ALWAYS people, and if my map confirms that, I'll try to get a grenade in there before charging in. Even if it doesn't kill anyone, it'll provide a bit of smoke cover. :)

paceman
22nd Dec 2007, 11:04 AM
I think that the very limited map selection, causes people to know the maps very well , which causes them to anticipate where to throw a random nade.

Bingo. I do that all the time. There are certain areas where there are ALWAYS people, and if my map confirms that, I'll try to get a grenade in there before charging in. Even if it doesn't kill anyone, it'll provide a bit of smoke cover. :)
+1 - There areas at the beginning were people will always be. Toss the nades and continue. Maybe if they limited nades for the entire round, you get 2 or 3 for the entire round, once they are gone, then you don't get any more until the next map. That may make people use more strategically.

JohnyRico0
22nd Dec 2007, 04:01 PM
Snowmen :|

Someone had to.

xGoblin013x
22nd Dec 2007, 05:59 PM
Why dont they just make it like 2142? you "shoot" your grenade and its thrown, no holding it.... Makes things much more quality.

Oh, with the sniper rifles, if someone shoots you, do you die instantly with a shot to the body? or is the insta-kill only with headshots?
Or is it like CSS where a sniper-rifle shot 1 yard left of your foot kills you?

{CLR}geneSW
22nd Dec 2007, 07:03 PM
depends on the riffle goblin.

a .50 cal will kill with a shot to the body (unless they have a certain perk...), all others it's 1 shot to the head, 2 to the body.

PainTrain
22nd Dec 2007, 11:29 PM
48 man server = time to load up fragx3, sonic boom, martyrdom and a p90 and run `n gun :O

SUB_ZERO
23rd Dec 2007, 12:47 AM
Folks hate to die.

They hate: snipers, P90's, grenades, airstrikes, Helicopters, etc., etc., etc.....

The grenades are a part of the game, a large part, if they kill you, toss some of your own.

-- Cain

Pwnt?

i tend to use my nades if i'm being naded myself or, strategically through windows for big kills :) but yeah i hate when i have 4 kills going on airstrike and a random nade gets me.... argh...

strYker555
24th Dec 2007, 12:37 PM
I think that the very limited map selection, causes people to know the maps very well , which causes them to anticipate where to throw a random nade.
especially when the kill cam is active it just causes people to go for the revenge kill with a nade or a good charge.
Also when theres no friendly fire on ,theres no harm is throwing a random grenade.

Well thats exactly whats happening in addition to the small size of most of these maps people know where to throw their nades getting multiple frags.

Larger maps like Strike I dont really have a problem with nades, the ones that kill me are well placed throws but other maps are raining nades which is very annoying.

thedeadlyassassin
24th Dec 2007, 04:26 PM
depends on the riffle goblin.

a .50 cal will kill with a shot to the body (unless they have a certain perk...), all others it's 1 shot to the head, 2 to the body.


Actually, I've gotten tons of 1 hit kills with all sniper rifles, except the automatic one that you use in the sniper mission in the campaign.