Patch FINALLY coming Wednesday

[K PhaNTOM]

"After a lot of trials and tribulations, all versions of the game client has now completed QA successfully.
We will do no more testing on it.

All game servers will need to be taken down for updates. The maintenance period starts on Wednesday Jun 30th at 07:00AM (GMT+2). Most of them should be back up by 11:00AM (GMT+2).

During this time window, we will also release the new game client.

Check back after 11:00AM (GMT+2), and try out the new game client!"

Officially from DiCE

Linkage (http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/bc2-pc-service-update/1196780-client-r8-server-r15-release-info.html)

Let me be the first to say, ABOUT DAMN TIME. And, I wonder what else they broke lol

[H0ly-H@nd-Gr3nade]

Wow.. No mention of VOIP anywhere in the changelog.

Apparently they've given up on it! :roll:


Also from the post:
"The client patch is approximately 890MB large. The list of changes is pretty much the same as is listed here (http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/bc2-pc-service-update/1088496-client-r8-server-r12-qa.html). I'm going to write a post which explains some of the background behind the delays later tonight."

EDIT: This is just in time for me to join you guys! I will finally have my new rig up and running in a few days when A&M sends me my cheap copy of Windows 7.

[Pumpkin_Jack]

Wonder if it will fix the typo for the medic pack upgrades....

example: medic heal speed increase is called " r+" while range increase is "h+" should be flipped

[Furryappleseed]

No mention of Hot Carl? That expanding hitbox part seems kinda weak also. I thought it was supposed to be harder to hit moving targets.

At least I can chat when dead now.:D

[Sirex]

"The client patch is approximately 890MB large.

Thats not a patch!!! thats a full limb replacement with all the mod-cons thrown in!

Either way, i still hold to this... Its an awful big patch for a awful puney change list...

[Apache Warrior]

Just remember what W.C. Fields said: "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bull. "
Apache

[baconoclock]

Thats not a patch!!! thats a full limb replacement with all the mod-cons thrown in!

Either way, i still hold to this... Its an awful big patch for a awful puney change list...

Patches were that large in WoW.... except they were adding massive amounts of content :D

[K PhaNTOM]

Almost 1GB size... there goes 2 hours of my life...

[baconoclock]

Had a chance to review the notes. My thoughts below
Likes.

Server - Idle kick is controllable
Server - Profanity filter can be disabled
Server - Teamkill-kick system is controllable
Server - Ticket counts and bleed rate are controllable per-level
Server - Infantry only mode available per-level
Server - Initial spawn delay and respawn delay are adjustable
Gameplay - Countermeasures can be fired when driving a helicopter
Gameplay - The brightness of the pilot view in the Russian helicopter has been reduced

Dislikes
Gameplay - Tracer dart gun speed has been changed from 300 m/s to 200 m/s
No mention of VOIP fixes!

[Dead...Again]

Yeah, you would think as big as it is there would be more changes listed.

Here are a few things I am looking forward to in the patch:
Gameplay - G36 now has crosshair when in Hardcore mode
Server Browser - Join queue system when attempting to join a full server
Server Browser - Pings are sent via an alternate mechanism, which should work for non-Administrator users as well
Client - Toggle/hold crouch is user controllable
Client - Toggle/hold zoom is user controllable


Server Browser - Servers are sorted into 3 categories: Normal, Modified, Hardcore depending on their settings

I wonder what 'Modified' means?

[{CLR} ObiTroy]

...



I wonder what 'Modified' means?

Hopefully HC that will allow admin to allow crosshairs (at least on mounted weapons) and minimap... hopefully. :)

[Qicmee]

"Modified? mode means that the server's settings have been changed from the default values. Cain will have a few more options for how the game is played.

'Players can see whether a server is normal / modified / hardcore in the server browser. A grey skull icon indicates a ?Modified? mode. A yellow skull indicates a ?Hardcore? mode.'

A modified server will have a non-default setting for one or more of these: friendlyFire, killCam, miniMap, crossHair, 3dSpotting (spotted targets marked with icons), miniMapSpotting (icons), and thirdPersonVehicleCameras.

[Grisu]

Patches were that large in WoW.... except they were adding massive amounts of content :D

Exactly my thought!

[Skud]

Yeah, you would think as big as it is there would be more changes listed.

Here are a few things I am looking forward to in the patch:



I wonder what 'Modified' means?

What, crosshairs?!!! I was thinking hardcore players should have blindfolds!!! :D:wink:

But seriously, what a great idea to have guns with sights...I didn't think we'd come up with such advances even in my lifetime. Really amazing world, when you think of it.

[paceman]

No VOIP
No Friends List
Etc.....

More changes than fixes.....

BFBC - Brain Fart, Bad Coding.

[darth_nevus]

hey, at least the MG3 is getting a damage upgrade. thge only way to kill anything with the gun is to completely catch someone off guard, who is afk, in the middle of logging out, crashed, or stuck.... i'll be sad to see the AN-94 coming back to its glory though.

[mapes]

Wow.. No mention of VOIP anywhere in the changelog.

Apparently they've given up on it! :roll:



Maybe not.... these might fix it..

Server - Some potential sources for lag/rubberbanding have been eliminated
Server - reduced latency in packet handling


What I want to know is what the heck is this?

Client - Improved Play Now functionality


edit oh I get it immediately jump in a server

[H0ly-H@nd-Gr3nade]

Client - Improved Play Now functionality


edit oh I get it immediately jump in a server

Apparently before this patch the "Play Now" option would suggest passworded or empty servers. How could you honestly make that mistake? DICE/EA really need to test their games more before releasing them.

[{CLR} ObiTroy]

Yes. It's like this game wasn't QA'ed at all. :sad: I'd be interested in seeing their development & lifecycle process(es).

[ch33s3r]

Yes. It's like this game wasn't QA'ed at all. :sad: I'd be interested in seeing their development & lifecycle process(es).

Probably run by students like me :twisted:

[Skud]

I updated...didn't take too long with my connection. Hardly anyone else has it updated yet (server with most folks at the moment with new version has only 8 ppl in it, and there are only about 6 with anybody [hardcore filter on]). Cain's server needs to be updated yet, apparently, as I can't get on it. Will check back tomorrow. :wave1:

[H0ly-H@nd-Gr3nade]

Here's an interesting read from one of the big names at DICE working on BFBC2:

Clickly (http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/battlefield-bad-company-2-pc/1199353-software-engineering-file-formats-build-processes-packaging.html)

It actually explains a lot about the difficulties of implementing each subsequent patch, in an easy to understand manner. It was just posted yesterday as a response to all the hubub about the many delays.

[Warhead]

Custom binds may be reset, check em before you start playing.

The ability to toggle crouch and aim down sight are on the main settings screen, near bottom.

You may want to defrag after this huge patch :)

[Skud]

Custom binds may be reset, check em before you start playing.

The ability to toggle crouch and aim down sight are on the main settings screen, near bottom.

You may want to defrag after this huge patch :)

Yeah, had to reset my binds. Also, I played one game...seemed to almost come to a halt at times...chunky game play, not smooth...hopefully was just the ping, but seemed more than that. We'll see tomorrow on the Lair.

[Apache Warrior]

I updated...didn't take too long with my connection. Hardly anyone else has it updated yet (server with most folks at the moment with new version has only 8 ppl in it, and there are only about 6 with anybody [hardcore filter on]). Cain's server needs to be updated yet, apparently, as I can't get on it. Will check back tomorrow. :wave1:

I always wait to install any updates until after Cain's Servers have been updated. :D
Apache

[Rand{CLR}]

I always wait to install any updates until after Cain's Servers have been updated. :D
Apache

+1. Though this is the biggest possible failing for having the game on Steam. It may go and upgrade for us. :twisted:

-Rand

[Skud]

I always wait to install any updates until after Cain's Servers have been updated. :D
Apache

didn't know it wasn't updated until I updated...can't play the game without updating.

[K PhaNTOM]

Cool thing is, game looks alot worse now... I don't think I'll be playing it much.

[{CLR} Cobalt]

Aw Phantom you got to moan about everything. I played the new one and like the que system much better. I'm still on the Aug but will use the MG3 to see how it does. Somebody already stated that it was much better. I dont know what they were doing to the AN 94 but I'll try it again next.

I'm through with all the Platinum weapons on assault. Need to work on medic and eng. for a while. I played on a server in Australia at about 300 ping and it was pretty good game play. At least for me. And the toggle crouch thing is just like Cod, so thats a plus. I dont think they regressed in anything.Seems ok to me. I'll be able to tell more when I play at the Lair cause I know exactly how things have been for me there.

When is the server gonna get updated.

[Skud]

Aw Phantom you got to moan about everything. I played the new one and like the que system much better. I'm still on the Aug but will use the MG3 to see how it does. Somebody already stated that it was much better. I dont know what they were doing to the AN 94 but I'll try it again next.

I'm through with all the Platinum weapons on assault. Need to work on medic and eng. for a while. I played on a server in Australia at about 300 ping and it was pretty good game play. At least for me. And the toggle crouch thing is just like Cod, so thats a plus. I dont think they regressed in anything.Seems ok to me. I'll be able to tell more when I play at the Lair cause I know exactly how things have been for me there.

When is the server gonna get updated.

It was going a little bit ago...I was on but nobody else was.

Oh, also, seems like the choppers are a little more agile...though one would still be risking their life riding with me as a pilot.

[Warhead]

Yeah, had to reset my binds. Also, I played one game...seemed to almost come to a halt at times...chunky game play, not smooth...hopefully was just the ping, but seemed more than that. We'll see tomorrow on the Lair.

Looks like the rubber banding fix... wasn't. I played a few servers where my ping was ~20 and I've never had problems before, all kinds of warpy, choppy lag like nonsense going on.

[Skud]

all kinds of warpy, choppy lag like nonsense going on.

They'll fix that in 6 months. :D

[Rand{CLR}]

Well, Steam does automatically update, so I hope the server is updated or will be soon.

Good news everyone: the M1 Garand finally works right. And it's very powerful. Bad news: the all weapons bronze (and therefore, all bronze) insignias are still busted. I now have all weapons at least at bronze but didn't get those two. That's 15,000 in bonus points just waiting for another fix. :(

More points for capping flags. :2thumbs:

I didn't TK anyone, but I saw they also raised the point loss there to a full -100 points. Too many people get run over when I'm in a tank, or run into my mortars/nades for this to be good. :sad: Funny though. :D

EDIT: oh, forgot this big con: the chat box is now a true, VERY obtrusive box in the upper left corner. It sucks big time.

-Rand

[Skud]

EDIT: oh, forgot this big con: the chat box is now a true, VERY obtrusive box in the upper left corner. It sucks big time.

-Rand

Yeah, I noticed that. Was messing around in the server with Warhead a few minutes ago...just trying things out. We were typing to each other and I was thinking, man, I hope nobody chats when a chopper's incoming, or there are snipers up on a hill or in the lighthouse I'm trying to shoot: that is a big blinder. Also doesn't seem to be any mini map, so finding baddies in ur base will be awful tough...but good for when ur the baddy.

[K PhaNTOM]

I dont chat ingame. Has anyone tested it out yet? Same issue?

I tell you one thing though, ever since I got the game I never exited the game without it crashing and causing me to use CTRL ALT DEL to end the task. And after a 1GB patch that didn't fix it, I really was mad.

[Skud]

I tell you one thing though, ever since I got the game I never exited the game without it crashing and causing me to use CTRL ALT DEL to end the task. And after a 1GB patch that didn't fix it, I really was mad.

Probably an NVidia or Intel thing: mine's never done that. :D

Oh, they weakened the snipers. Warhead and I were testing them, he shot me in abdomen with Col and I lived. I switched to M95 (which I don't like) and shot him in the rocks at 50 yds and he lived (maybe he's just got tough ones). With magnum ammo you can do one shot kills, but not without, it seems. Not that it will lessen the sniping (they'll all just use magnum if they don't already), but I guess it's something.

[xGoblin013x]

any changes to the Carl Gustav?
i.e. did they make it so the back-blast kills the user? :twisted:

[paceman]

Frankly, other than having to fix my binds, and the new, UGLY, chat/message system, I didn't notice any differences. None of my friends were online at the time, so I don't know if that is fixed. And I wasn't playing with friends so I didn't try out the VOIP.

My impression, MEH! :sad:

[Apache Warrior]

VOIP was not working for me. Or else everyone was ignoring me. :oops: :D
I find that Reload is always on in game. That is annoying.
I did not have to reset my binds.
Apache

[{CLR} ObiTroy]

I only had one bind, melee to a mouse button... didn't realize it wasn't working until a great opportunity to knife baconoclock came and went, had to kill him with my M60 instead. :cry:

I didn't even think to try voip. I guess I'm just use to it not working now.

[Qicmee]

VOIP was not working for me.

I didn't hear anything...but that's normal now. Just for halibut, might want to verify your VOIP key binding. I knew they wouldn't fix VOIP, but I doubt they meant to shut it off.

[pigworthy]

For arty, you have to hold the right mouse button down (not just click it) while selecting your target.

I do like the fact you can chat and see chat while your dead. I never could before.

On my screen the 12x scope doesn't have a horz. line all the way through anymore, so no crosshair point. Something to help make snipers less effective maybe?

The M60 seems less effective and accurate also.

[Dead...Again]

I noticed the decrease in sniper damage as well when I was trying to finish off the Bronze on the M24. Sux for me cause I am a crappy sniper and almost never get headshots, but probably good overall... Is there a list of all of the gun changes?

The chat change didn't really bother me. I am glad that you can read it and type when dead now.

VOIP definitely still broke... :cry::cry:

I had to change a few of my binds, and initially got a few backwards, so I was knifing when trying to talk in VOIP! :D

[Rand{CLR}]

The other thing that's annoying about the chat box is it's now harder to see death messages and know what's going on.

-Rand

[paceman]

The other thing that's annoying about the chat box is it's now harder to see death messages and know what's going on.

-Rand
Yeah - moving the Kill Messages to the other corner sure makes it harder, but otherwise they were covered by the map that comes up when you're dead. After awhile you'll probably get used to it being there instead.

[Dead_And_Gone]

I lost some key bindings, and the chat location hurls, but overall didn't notice alot of significant changes.

[Cain]

So the patch is out.

should I look into running a hybrid server somewhere between HC and vanilla ??

Anyone tried a server like that out yet ?

[Skud]

So the patch is out.

should I look into running a hybrid server somewhere between HC and vanilla ??

Anyone tried a server like that out yet ?

hard to say. I've only been playing on the Lair, forever now. Personally I like the hardcore, and would be more than happy to just see another map in the rotation. Either way I'll play though. :2thumbs:

P.S. Server's still about full, at 3:19 Central Time, if that means anything. ;)

[Tex]

Bacon,minerva, myself and one other player were all on one squad and magically the voip was working clear as a bell. Atleast for bacon and myself. Only crap thing about it is you can push the button to talk, and no mic icon shows up showing your transmitting. Maybe next patch.:pissed:

[Apache Warrior]

VOIP is so hit or miss.
When it works, it is clear as a bell.
When it doesn't it is team play Hell. :shock: :D
Apache

[Minerva]

Bacon,minerva, myself and one other player were all on one squad and magically the voip was working clear as a bell. Atleast for bacon and myself. Only crap thing about it is you can push the button to talk, and no mic icon shows up showing your transmitting. Maybe next patch.:pissed:

I could hear you guys, but you couldn't. The VOIP thing is so random ........

[Minerva]

I hope it gets fixed one day

[Dead...Again]

So the patch is out.

should I look into running a hybrid server somewhere between HC and vanilla ??

Anyone tried a server like that out yet ?
I would love to try modified. Having a minimap would make life much easier.

I have seen a few modified servers, but I haven't tried any yet.

EDIT: it would also be nice to be able to use stationary weapons and the guns in boats without having to guess where you are shooting.

[Grisu]

This game gets worse with each patch.

[paceman]

I never think about VOIP any longer. I am totally surprised any time I hear a real voice. :twisted:

[Dead...Again]

I never think about VOIP any longer. I am totally surprised any time I hear a real voice. :twisted:
I'm exactly the opposite. I always talk into the VOIP as if it is working perfectly. :D

[Pumpkin_Jack]

hard to say. I've only been playing on the Lair, forever now. Personally I like the hardcore, and would be more than happy to just see another map in the rotation. Either way I'll play though. :2thumbs:

P.S. Server's still about full, at 3:19 Central Time, if that means anything. ;)

yeah i would love to see laguna pressa get tossed in

[Rand{CLR}]

I never think about VOIP any longer. I am totally surprised any time I hear a real voice. :twisted:

+1. This game has conditioned me to not even reach for the key. I was shocked to hear Blackarrow's voice last night, and within 5 minutes I wasn't hearing anything so I don't know if I was talking into dead air or he just wasn't replying. :D

-Rand

[Apache Warrior]

I'm exactly the opposite. I always talk into the VOIP as if it is working perfectly. :D

I do the same thing. Except for a few, like Qicmee, if they aren't replying I figure VOIP is down. :D
Apache

[baconoclock]

I do the same thing. Except for a few, like Qicmee, if they aren't replying I figure VOIP is down. :D
Apache

i will typically do a mic check at the start. if i dont get an answer i assume voip is down