very fishy microsoft

[Henry06x]

this may just be me reading into something not there but it seems a little fishy to me :scratch:

I have a first gen xbox 360 (yea the one with only a 10 gig hd). Ive had this thing for years as my warranty was up for the console in early 08. I have NEVER had a problem with my xbox freezing or acting up in any way. the only problem that I have experience with my console is a scratched disk.

now I havent played for awhile (about a month probably) and have been debating on weather or not to get MW2 for my xbox or pc... i decided on my xbox because my computer is getting old and im not sure how well it would handle the game (its just a amd athlon 64 dual processor with 5 gig of ram) anyways..

I get MW2 for my xbox and have to do this new update and everything (never shut off my xbox during this) and play the game for about an hour. My xbox is still acting perfectly fine at this point in time. I shut it off to get some sleep and wake back up this evening and go to play it before heading to work and suddenly have an E 74 error needing repairs... now I need to send my xbox in and have it fixed being outside of a warranty so I dont even know if it will be covered.

so how does my xbox go from running perfectly fine for over 4 years (not sure exactly how long ive had it) with absolutely no problems to as soon as i do this update it has operational errors???? just dont sound right to me :scratch:

everyone ive know thats had an xbox with issues has had problems with the console prior to it taking a S***, not just wake up one day and its screwed up.... mine has had none

[linemanstud]

part of the issue is that companies are now building electronics with "death dates" which are purposely scheduled for after their warranty is up. I'm taking an entire course on planned obsolescence and one of the guys in the class works for motorola. Basically what he said is that they test these products for almost a year non-stop before they put them on the market, so they know exactly when they will break. They then make the warranty last just long enough to seem like a good deal, but just short enough to end before the console breaks. Don't blame microsoft, blame the corporate monster that is modern capitalism.

[Skud]

part of the issue is that companies are now building electronics with "death dates" which are purposely scheduled for after their warranty is up. I'm taking an entire course on planned obsolescence and one of the guys in the class works for motorola. Basically what he said is that they test these products for almost a year non-stop before they put them on the market, so they know exactly when they will break. They then make the warranty last just long enough to seem like a good deal, but just short enough to end before the console breaks. Don't blame microsoft, blame the corporate monster that is modern capitalism.


Ahh, capitalism. I like to think of the word as coming from the verb "capitalize", for which I think the best definition is number 2, below. 2. intransitive verb benefit from something: to profit by or take advantage of something
to capitalize on an opponent's mistake And we, the consumers, would be the corporation's opponents...the ones whom they capitalize on (but better to be raped by capitalists than to share with socialists, right?). It makes sense, what you say, Lineman, I've wondered why my consoles always seem to take pukes on me after a year or two.



capitalize

cap?i?tal?ize [ k?ppit'l z ] (past and past participle cap?i?tal?ized, present participle cap?i?tal?iz?ing, 3rd person present singular cap?i?tal?iz?es)

verb

Definition:

1. transitive and intransitive verb linguistics use capital letters for something: to write or print something with capital letters or an initial capital letter

2. intransitive verb benefit from something: to profit by or take advantage of something
to capitalize on an opponent's mistake

3. transitive verb finance use something as capital: to use debt or budgeted expenditure as capital for development

4. transitive verb finance something: to supply capital for a business enterprise

5. transitive verb finance authorize issue of capital stock: to authorize a business enterprise to issue a particular amount of capital stock

6. transitive verb finance exchange debt for stock: to convert a corporation's debt into shares of stock

7. transitive verb accounting treat expenses as assets: to treat an expenditure as an asset in a business account instead of as an expense

8. transitive verb finance value future income: to determine the current value of a future cash flow, earnings, or other income

cap?i?tal?iz?a?ble adjective
cap?i?tal?i?za?tion [ k?ppit'li z?ysh'n ] noun

Encarta? World English Dictionary [North American Edition] ? & (P)2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. Developed for Microsoft by Bloomsbury Publishing Plc.

[GeneralSnake]

LOL Skud, intense post.
We live in a strange, money driven world.

[Henry06x]

yes... yes we do...

so i found out how much it would be to send my xbox to Microsoft and have them fix it.....
$150 large, hell you can buy a refurbished xbox with a 60 gig hd (you cant find a 10 gig anymore) for 170 at walmart now, and then i dont have to wait two to six weeks after they receive it to have it fixed then wait for it to be returned to me... thats if you dont get the magical Microsoft "well me must not have recieved it yet" or "it must have been shipped to the wrong department" excuses ive herd oh so much about when trying to have a xbox fixed...

looks like i get to go buy myself a early Christmas present today.... an xbox 360 elite for 300 bucks or should i just spend the extra 100 bucks and get the starter set that comes with the hd cables and 2 games that ill probably never play because they arnt first person shooters...

[Skud]

LOL Skud, intense post.
We live in a strange, money driven world.

Lol, GS. Intensity is one of my few constants. :wink:

P.S. I may exaggerate points at times to generate discussion and thought, which may give me the appearance of inflexibility, intensity, ignorance or whatever, lol...but I do it only to explore extremes and find the middle ground...knowing that there are examples to prove nearly any point of view incorrect, at least temporarily...in an ever-changing world...so I just throw some stuff out there to keep the ball rolling (I'm not as intense as some of my posts my make me out to be). :)