Hmmmm.... This is a smart women

[Nomadicus]

Naomi Wolf got me to thinking when I first saw this video about a year ago.
YouTube - Talk by Naomi Wolf - The End of America (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjALf12PAWc)

She makes the case that Bush used 9/11 to usurp our rights and will lead us to a fascist country (like Chavez and Venezuela). I don't agree with her argument completely, but she does make the case.

Bush is gone. Under Bush we never came close to fascism.
Is she ever going to make the case that Obama is using the financial crisis to do the same thing or worse? So far nothing at her web site: Naomi Wolf (http://naomiwolf.org/)

This is what I believe is happening: A power grab is actively being made by the Obama administration (e.g., Timothy Geitner, etc.). This grab doesn't protect us from other countries or terrorists. Protecting our borders is the #1 function of the federal government (at least that's what I read in the constitution) and I believe protecting us has now been relegated to a low priority. For example, compare the now widening gap of a shrinking defense budget to a growing non-defense budget.

Will Noami Wolf look at Obama as critically as she did Bush? She might if she ever admits Obama isn't as clean as the wind driven snow.

After watching several of her videos, I give her a chance she will be just as critical of Obama.

What does anyone else think?

[Trooper110]

I think the point of the Federal government is to provide unity and equality between the states. To provide a central stabilizing government that is representational of the states so that none can gain dominance. To see to the welfare of our country. Whether it does this through using Federal dollars to beef of defense, beef up foreign aid, help the homeless, doesn't matter how. Show me where in the Constitution it says the #1 function of the Federal government is to provide border defense.

And yes, 9/11 was used to usurp our rights. Look at the warrantless wiretapping, the illegal holding of foreign nationals and nationals at Gitmo, the Patriot Act to name a few. The Obama administration has done better on some things, worse on others.

Unless something goes drastically down hill I don't think that anyone has, or will create a fascist state in the US. Bush had problems, I didn't like some policies, I think he is literally stupid, but for the most part he didn't do a horrible job in his 8 years.

So far with Obama, I've like some stuff he's done, some of the policies and decisions scare me (as Bush's did) and some anger me. You're going to face the same with every president. They all make promises, they all fail to keep some, and they all do the best that they, as a man, can do.

My point here is....who the hell cares what she says? Who cares what the evening commentator on Fox News, or CNN, or the BBC says? In the end all you can do is gather all the facts, make your own decision, then try to exert influence over the issue if you feel strongly enough about it....whether it's staging national protests, not voting for the guy again, calling your congressperson, etc.

[Nomadicus]

My point here is....who the hell cares what she says?I thought it would be interesting to discuss. You brought up some interesting stuff. ;)

I believe Obama is trying to usurp our rights. I could be wrong. Gather your facts and we can compare (I am not into arguing pointlessly). I like your response and would like to discuss it further. Do you think Geitner isn't trying on behalf of Obama?

Show me where in the Constitution it says the #1 function of the Federal government is to provide border defense.Powers are enumerated.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enumerated_powers
If it isn't in the constitution, it cannot be done (although that is routinely ignored these days). Defense is in the constitution and is spelled out. Welfare doesn't exist in the constitution. Defense (not to mention establishing civil order) is indeed the #1 priority.

We should give welfare and charity. That is our responsibility not the fed's. The power grab, which I contend would not even exist had the constitution's enumerated power been adhered to, being is an obvious reason why.

[Dead...Again]

The problem, Nomad, is that none of our current federal leaders give a damn about the constitution unless they feel they can gain political advantage by citing it. The only thing they think about is political gain. The majority of our federal laws disregard the constitution entirely.

[Duke{CLR}]

Just like most other Hollywood leftists she will never criticize the mighty one. These elitist folks have a deep down guilt and they think if the government gives out enough handouts that it will all be equalized and all will be well. To them big business is the enemy and big government is the savior.

Obama has shown little regard for the principles that formed this country and his bailouts and power grabs are a clear indication of this. He has said that the courts did not do enough to redistribute wealth. He said a similar thing to Joe the plumber when he told him he wanted to redistribute his wealth too. He has supported the warrantless wiretapping and nobody criticized him about it. So far Obama has gotten a free pass on all these things and will continue to because the left is not being intellectually honest.

The key to any sovereign nation is it's security and that was the whole idea of the 13 colones uniting many years ago. They could untie or die. Borders, language and culture are the key to keeping this nation together and both political parties have shown little regard for any of these. They are both taking us down the same road just at different speeds.

It would be nice if people like this would be consistent so we could get something done.